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Ukerric

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Could the man in the iron mask be Earth 1 Ronnie Raymond who was lost in the singularity...the same one that dropped Jay here
The actor is quoted as saying that Ronnie-1 had been killed enough times, and bringing him back once again would be stupid. Any of his appearances on the show will be some alt-Ronnie.
 

Sevens

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The actor is quoted as saying that Ronnie-1 had been killed enough times, and bringing him back once again would be stupid. Any of his appearances on the show will be some alt-Ronnie.
Except now they are killing off all the alt Ronnies lol
 

Chukzombi

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Earth 2 Wells could also be wrong, He might assume he created Zoom because he created all the metas with the blast, but Zoom may have a more complicated origin then even he knows.
 

Sevens

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Earth 2 Wells could also be wrong, He might assume he created Zoom because he created all the metas with the blast, but Zoom may have a more complicated origin then even he knows.
Im thinking this here might be the case, Zooms creation has something to do with Jay and Velocity 6 (I think that was what number they were on when first mentioned the serum)
 

Xarpolis

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How expected was the end of that episode, though? Everyone is celebrating that they won and Jay is just standing there, not moving, in front of the closing portal. Gee, I sure hope Zoom doesn't suddenly show up and cause something bad to happen to Jay. Oh, he did. Sure didn't think that would happen.
 

Sevens

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How expected was the end of that episode, though? Everyone is celebrating that they won and Jay is just standing there, not moving, in front of the closing portal. Gee, I sure hope Zoom doesn't suddenly show up and cause something bad to happen to Jay. Oh, he did. Sure didn't think that would happen.
it was staged! Jay and Zoom had it planned and Jay isnt dead
 

Ambiturner

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How expected was the end of that episode, though? Everyone is celebrating that they won and Jay is just standing there, not moving, in front of the closing portal. Gee, I sure hope Zoom doesn't suddenly show up and cause something bad to happen to Jay. Oh, he did. Sure didn't think that would happen.
It was so damn obvious with the portal so close to him in the background for so long and his big "yay everything worked out perfectly, nothing could possibly go wrong now!" grin on his face.
 

Sevens

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After watching the scene with the man in the iron mask several times Im thinking the actor is John Wesley Shipp. Im not sure if Earth 1 or Earth 2 Henry but it sure seems like him.
Also, could Jay Garrick (the one we know) actually be Hannibal Bates (Everyman) Hes dead on earth 1 but what about earth 2?
 

Chukzombi

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I'm still holding onto the Henry Allen is zoom idea. He disappeared way too fucking soon after getting released from prison
 

Sevens

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I'm still holding onto the Henry Allen is zoom idea. He disappeared way too fucking soon after getting released from prison
Why on earth would Henry Allen be trying to kill his own kid? I could see Earth 2 Henry Allen but not Earth 1...just doesnt make sense, I mean Zoom was already sending breachers through the rift before he was out of Prison (Atom smasher was after Barry before Henry was out of prison)
 

Xarpolis

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That's simple.

Earth 1 Henry = Man in Iron Mask (captured by Zoom becaue he's the Earth 2 doppelganger).
Earth 2 Henry = Zoom.
 

Chukzombi

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Why on earth would Henry Allen be trying to kill his own kid? I could see Earth 2 Henry Allen but not Earth 1...just doesnt make sense, I mean Zoom was already sending breachers through the rift before he was out of Prison (Atom smasher was after Barry before Henry was out of prison)
i mean earth2 henry. which dovetails with your theory, earth1 henry is the prisoner. he might be needing him for his dna
 

Chukzombi

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now im thinking about it, barry2 did have his mom and dad on speed dial. so i guess he would probably know if his dad was missing or his mom would have mentioned it when barry1 called her. oh well, i guess jay really is the prisoner.

at least they solved their zoom problem on earth 1.