The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

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kegkilla

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I don't know much about the whole red pill thing but from what I've seen my issue with it is that it is mostly a community who hate women due to the fact that they've been betrayed or taken advantage of one at some point in time. when you have a whole community of these people who are generally anti-social losers to begin with you are creating an insular environment that corroborates these feelings of hatred towards women. Don't get me wrong - there's plenty of women out there who love to manipulate men and are generally dispicable. however, I don't understand why the red pullers would want to create a strategy guide for dating these types of women, rather than just ignoring them and dating women who aren't trash.
 

iannis

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Keg droppin truth bombs.

See, my problem is that I'm too god damn picky. I'm fussy and I know it about myself. I'm pretty sure that "don't be too fucking picky, don't be fussy" is one of the top ten rules for redpullers. If it's not it should be. And it's fine advice. But fuck that, I've gotstandards.

#kneestoosharpprivilege

David Lee Roth once said, "I don't get to fuck any woman I want. I get to fuck any woman that wants me. It just so happens that there's a lot of those."

God damn you David Lee Roth.
 

Izo

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Woah woah woah slow it down. If we're theorycrafting for the moron RP crowd you're talking advance level tactics here.

They've got to start it off slow. Try getting a hobby first and doing something your passionate about. If you can find a group of people that follow the same thing you do you can start to make friends. Start with that.
Table top Warhammer 40K. Bitches like The Emperor's Finest!
 

Dumar_sl

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It's not an 'insular environment that hates women'; again, I've explained precisely: the exact opposite. RP is giving womenexactly what they desire.
 

Izo

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It's not an 'insular environment that hates women'; again, I've explained precisely: the exact opposite. RP is giving womenexactly what they desire.
How do you ascertain that? And how's women getting what they want a good thing? For whom and why?
 

hodj

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Dumars already on record that his longest relationship was two years while in college. I imagine he was in college sometime in the early to mid 2000s, so he really shouldnt be listened to at all on this subject.
 

Dumar_sl

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How do you ascertain that? And how's women getting what they want a good thing? For whom and why?
Because the analyses describe precisely what women (and men) respond to on a subliminal level. I keep repeating myself, but it's because post after post contain the exact same things over again. What youdowith this information is up to you: it's descriptive, not prescriptive. Now, are there lots of prescriptive posts on the reddit telling you what you should do? Absolutely - it's a discussion forum. The heart lies in the analyses of psychosocial behavior as it presents in reality compared to how culture describes it to us. They are different, and we need a formalized way to describe those differences - that's what it is. You take the redpill and garner an understanding of these dynamics in a concrete way as they present naturally, not as the cultural narrative explains them to you.

I had hoped someone would've read the previous link and actually commented on the content instead of throwing shit like monkeys do, but as I said in another thread, the collective brain trust of this forum has certainly waned over the years - so insults and labels are all we can intellectually muster.

Is women getting what they want a good thing? Now, that question is a whole different, gigantic can of worms.

Dumars already on record that his longest relationship was two years while in college. I imagine he was in college sometime in the early to mid 2000s, so he really shouldnt be listened to at all on this subject.
If you don't like 2 years, then look to Tomassi: married 20+ with children.

You guys are massively stereotyping because the information RP provides is depressing. I know - I get it. Well, not sure if your parents told you, but there isn't a Santa Claus unfortunately either.
 

hodj

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Everyone is the same, they all double top secret decoder ring want the same things, it is so because internet experts in evo psych say so. How dare you question dumar's authority figures?

Tomassi is Dumars currently unquestionable authority figure, by the way. This is what he does in every conversation, appeals to faux authority of some idiot hes read internet posts about or watched youtube videos from, declares them unquestionable authorities, and just keeps crying when you dont kow tow to his ridiculous fallacies of reasoning.

I have twenty years of married life with two kids under my belt Dumar. I dont need your faux authority figures. Save it.
 

Dumar_sl

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Everyone is the same, they all double top secret decoder ring want the same things, it is so because internet experts in evo psych say so. How dare you question dumar's authority figures?
Take any idea described by RP and vet it with your experience. Social proofing, for example. Is that a real psychosocial phenomenon? If I head to a social event alone vs. with two attractive women in tow, what will those different entrances communicate to the people - both women and men - in the venue?

RP describes social proofing - digs into the details ofwhythe difference between them is real. People take that information and use it prescriptively as they choose. That's a very simple example, but it's one that is clear to most people.
 

hodj

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This is the problem with evo psych and the red pill nonsense. You take legitimate science, and interpret it through a filter that confirms your own biases, and thats why you're now suggesting me to do the same.

Evo psych has lost all credibility because of people like Dumar engaging in this sort of fallacious reasoning. They take modern observed phenomena, and project it backwards, concocting justifications for why that behavior occurs now by creating imaginary models based on their presuppositions of what may have occured in the past, disregarding contextual exculpatory facts.

A good example of this was when evo psych proponents tried to declare that women favor pink and men favor blue because women were gatherers and men were hunters, and so women evolved to favor pink colors because of collecting flowers while men favor blue because it is a symbol of strength. This ignores the fact that 100 years ago, blue was favored by women because of its connection with the virgin Mary, and red and pink were symbols of strength that men favored, and the fact that purple was once the color of the Roman empire, and a symbol of strength now associated more with women than with royalty and power.

This is why evo psych is bollocks. Dumar is engaging in a biological determinist paradigm that is not supported by the evidence. Boaz and other anthropologists and sociologists spent decades breaking apart this nonsense, amd tossing it on the cutting room floor. Biology is a foundational layer of the human experience that is heavily modified by cultural contexts. His reductionist thinking on this subject is tainting his entire worldview, and removing his capacity for judging the data from a place of reason and rationality.
 

Dumar_sl

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It may have a different effect in some far away, ancient culture somewhere based on radically different norms if that's the intention with your post (Mars? and even then, I'd love to see this culture where herd-minded tendencies didn't see a male with two desired females as a social positive). I linked you all the research you'll need for the next month from one of the most reputable sources out there today, and you still didn't answer my question - if you have a different model or idea to describe the behavior I used as an example, I'm all ears.
 

hodj

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The intention of my post is to point out that biological determinism is pseudo science unsupported by the evidence, and you are retarded for engaging in biological determinist thinking as a result.

Its pure woo fuckery.

The different model is the cultural model of the anthropological worldview. You know, the mainstream, accepted, demonstrable model with over 100 years of sound researching backing it. Try starting with some Margaret Mead and Franz Boaz.
 

hodj

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I edited my post since you need it spelled out for you, and yes, evo psych is woo filled fuckery.