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Dumar_sl

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I've been waiting on a solution from many different people for years on a different model to describe concepts like social proofing. Everyone hates RP yet when push comes to shove, they grudgingly admit parts are true, and the other parts are just 'misogynist'. You're not the first that can't deliver.
 

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Dumass has been shitting this thread up for days. Im the solution, not the problem.
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I've been waiting on a solution from many different people for years on a different model to describe concepts like social proofing. Everyone hates RP yet when push comes to shove, they grudgingly admit parts are true, and the other parts are just 'misogynist'. You're not the first that can't deliver.
Just because you are ignorant of the facts doesnt imply they dont exist. Try Margaret Meads Coming of Age in Samoa for starters.
 

Dumar_sl

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I've got the facts. It's a new field, but there's already lots of research in support of my position. Watching the Stanford lectures is a good first step in understanding the 'woo fuckery' of reality.
 

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No, you dont. You just keep asserting, just like evo psych field proponents do, that youve got the answers. The reality is that evo psych proposes lots of hypotheses, has never come up with a single plan to demonstrate their truth value through experimentation, and has failed utterly to move either the fields of psychology or evolutionary theory forwards, at all. Youve got a lot of talk and no substance in evo psych. Its a completely unfalsifiable field of base conjecture at this point, and is rejected on its face as non explanatory as a result.

Youve got nuthin, dumar. De nada. Anthropology has been answering questions of human behavioral patterns as a complex of cultural modifications on biological behaviors for a century. Evo psych is string theory for behavioral studies: lots of talk and no action.
 

Dumar_sl

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No, you dont. You just keep asserting, just like evo psych field proponents do [...] and has failed utterly to move either the fields of psychology or evolutionary theory forwards, at all. Youve got a lot of talk and no substance in evo psych. Its a completely unfalsifiable field of base conjecture at this point, and is rejected on its face as non explanatory as a result.

Youve got nuthin, dumar. De nada. Anthropology has been answering questions of human behavioral patterns as a complex of cultural modifications on biological behaviors for a century. Evo psych is string theory for behavioral studies: lots of talk and no action.
I've got everythin': answers insofar as we can observe and analyze them. You don't. Mead was a political proponent more than a scholar, so pretty hilarious you'd use her of all people to choose from. That's precisely why I've never read her (nor probably ever will). If you want to talk about looking for evidence of already-formed answers, look no further than her:

[...] Mead's research was seen as supporting various political positions and an attack on Mead was seen as a bigger attack on these political ideals.[41][42] However, additional anthropologists who studied the Samoans confirmed most of Freeman's findings and contradicted those of Mead.[43] While Mead was careful to shield the identity of all her subjects for confidentiality one participant in her study was found and interviewed and she said that her and her friends were having fun with Mead and telling her stories.
Your academic is one of the original SJWs. It's time to start your real homework I assigned.

never come up with a single plan to demonstrate their truth value through experimentation
I just did and have. RP analyses are accurate according to the reality seen in modern interpersonal relations. You're getting into deep-rooted weeds here that no one cares about. Again.

The point is precisely thus: RP is accurate in describing the modern psychosocial behavior of humans regardless of your position on nature vs. nurture.
 

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Its nice you can make basal assertions. Its too bad I already know tha evo psych is rejected by all mainstream biologists and anthropologists, has offered nothing if substance, and is non explanatory.

Again, you are a computer programmer, I have a degree in phys anth. You are not a credible witness for the social sciences. calling one of the greatest and most respected cultural anthropoligsts of the history of the field a political hack while appealing to a field that has yet to advance either the psych field or the evolutionary biology field one inch in fourty years is pretty much all the evidence we need you got nothing but slander and baseless conjecture. Try again retard.

I can cite wikipedia as well, by the way. Try not wngaging in selection bias when quoting it, dipshit.

Mead was a respected and often controversial academic who popularized the insights of anthropology in modern American and Western culture.[2] Her reports detailing the attitudes towards sex in South Pacific and Southeast Asian traditional cultures influenced the 1960s sexual revolution. She was a proponent of broadening sexual mores within a context of traditional Western religious life...

"There is now a large body of criticism of Freeman's work from a number of perspectives in which Mead, Samoa, and anthropology appear in a very different light than they do in Freeman's work. Indeed, the immense significance that Freeman gave his critique looks like 'much ado about nothing' to many of his critics."[27]...

In 1996 Martin Orans examined Mead's notes preserved at the Library of Congress, and credits her for leaving all of her recorded data available to the general public. Orans concludes that Freeman's basic criticisms, that Mead was duped by ceremonial virgin Fa'apua'a Fa'amu (who later swore to Freeman that she had played a joke on Mead) were false for several reasons: first, Mead was well aware of the forms and frequency of Samoan joking; second, she provided a careful account of the sexual restrictions on ceremonial virgins that corresponds to Fa'apua'a Fa'auma'a's account to Freeman, and third, that Mead's notes make clear that she had reached her conclusions about Samoan sexuality before meeting Fa'apua'a Fa'amu. He therefore concludes, contrary to Freeman, that Mead was never the victim of a hoax. Orans points out that Mead's data support several different conclusions, and that Mead's conclusions hinge on an interpretive, rather than positivist, approach to culture
Margaret Mead's bashers owe her an apology - Cross-Check - Scientific American Blog Network

Mead is also a frequent target of evolutionary psychologists, behavioral geneticists and other scientists who emphasize nature over nurture as a determinant of human behavior. The psychologist Steven Pinker has chastised Mead for supposedly claiming that we are "blank slates" whose behavior is unconstrained by biology. Pinker's Harvard colleague, the anthropologist Richard Wrangham, has derided Mead for suggesting that "human evil is a culturally acquired thing, an arbitrary garment that can be cast off like our winter clothes."...

Mead's critics harrumph that she was politically biased-and, of course, she was, from early on in her life. The child of Quaker social scientists, Mead studied at Barnard College in the 1920s under Franz Boas, a political progressive and outspoken critic of social Darwinism and eugenics, which in this pre-Nazi era were still intellectually fashionable. As a result of these influences, Mead opposed genetic determinism, racism, sexism, militarism and stultifying religious morality. She was biased-and she was right...

A recent book on the controversy-The Trashing of Margaret Mead: Anatomy of an Anthropological Controversy by the anthropologist Paul Shankman of the University of Colorado at Boulder, a specialist on Samoa-may restore Mead's unjustly tarnished reputation. On the anthropology blog Savage Minds, Alex Golub of University of Hawaii at Manoa called Shankman's book "the most definitive and thorough analysis of the Mead-Freeman 'debate' that has been published so far."

Golub summed up the book as follows: "Freeman's arguments about Mead are shown not to hold very much water, and his own claims about Samoa don't seem to stand close scholarly scrutiny either." Shankman also documented what Golub calls Freeman's "atrocious behavior, such as contacting universities and demanding that they revoke the PhDs of his opponents."

Shankman "points out the ways in which Coming of Age reaches conclusions about American life that Mead quite liked but which were not really supported by the Samoan data," Golub added. "Still, it is clear from his book that Mead was basically a decent fieldworker and a careful scholar while Freeman was, frankly, a nutcake."
Yfw Dumar, the supposed full blown token communist of this forum community, is regurgitating attacks made by proponents of eugenics and biological determinists against Boaz and Mead, whose work was directly responsible for discrediting the eugenics movement in the United States.

Dumar, we shall dub thee Dumass.
 

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My choice is to reject discredited eugenicist proponents false attacks on one of the greatest ethnographers in world history.

Your inconsistency discredits you even more than your retard logic, by the way.

And your explicit admission youre wrong and dont even know who Margaret Mead was until I said her name is accepted.
 

Dumar_sl

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My choice is to reject discredited eugenicist proponents false attacks on one of the greatest ethnographers in world history.

Your inconsistency discredits you even more than your retard logic, by the way.

And your explicit admission youre wrong and dont even know who Margaret Mead was until I said her name is accepted.
Huh? Of course I know who she is - I'm a huge fan of Pinker, who totally destroys her every time he opens his mouth. His lectures are online too, if you're interested. I didn't know she was a SJW though.
 

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Huh? Of course I know who she is - I'm a huge fan of Pinker, who totally destroys her every time he opens his mouth. His lectures are online too, if you're interested. I didn't know she was a SJW though.
Blah blah blah.

More Dumass hero worship.

How do you deal wih the cognitive dissonance of claiming to be a cmmunist while regurgitating arguments Hitler literally used to justify the holocaust, retard? Biological determinism is the foundation of eugenics and segregation, slavery and every other major vice of the past two centuries, and you can assertion fallacy all day, pinker wont even be remembered in fifty years. mead and Boaz will be required reading in every history of anthropological theory class for the next five hundred years.
 

Dumar_sl

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Blah blah blah.

More Dumass hero worship.

How do you deal wih the cognitive dissonance of claiming to be a cmmunist while regurgitating arguments Hitler literally used to justify the holocaust, retard?
Very simple. I just use your man Harris's approach to moral culpability and voila! No problem executing millions if my intentions are good.
 

hodj

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Very simple. I just use your man Harris's approach to moral culpability and voila! No problem executing millions if my intentions are good.
Retarded strawmanning time from the eugenicist proponent Dumass. Clear sign he's lost the debate. Let us know when you work out those contradictory worldviews, dipshit.

Imma go play mah psp.
 

Dumar_sl

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I'm now a eugenicist proponent, on track to being Hitler because I believe Harvard and Stanford-backed scholarship on human behavior as opposed to a SJW feminist who's work is mired in controversy, disaccreditation, and even admitted bias? Yep - go play that PSP.
 

hodj

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Regurgitates stale attacks from half a century ago by some of the most prolific proponents of eugenics against Mead and Boaz. Gets angsty when someone points it out.

Dumass gonna dumb.

Boas was one of the most prominent opponents of the then popular ideologies of scientific racism, the idea that race is a biological concept and that human behavior is best understood through the typology of biological characteristics.[7] In a series of groundbreaking studies of skeletal anatomy he showed that cranial shape and size was highly malleable depending on environmental factors such as health and nutrition, in contrast to the claims by racial anthropologists of the day that held head shape to be a stable racial trait. Boas also worked to demonstrate that differences in human behavior are not primarily determined by innate biological dispositions, but are largely the result of cultural differences acquired through social learning. In this way, Boas introduced culture as the primary concept for describing differences in behavior between human groups, and as the central analytical concept of anthropology.[6]

Among Boas's main contributions to anthropological thought was his rejection of the then popular evolutionary approaches to the study of culture, which saw all societies progressing through a set of hierarchic technological and cultural stages, with Western-European culture at the summit. Boas argued that culture developed historically through the interactions of groups of people and the diffusion of ideas, and that consequently there was no process towards continuously "higher" cultural forms. This insight led Boas to reject the "stage"-based organization of ethnological museums, instead preferring to order items on display based on the affinity and proximity of the cultural groups in question. Boas also introduced the ideology of cultural relativism which holds that cultures cannot be objectively ranked as higher or lower, or better or more correct, but that all humans see the world through the lens of their own culture, and judge it according to their own culturally acquired norms. For Boas the object of anthropology was to understand the way in which culture conditioned people to understand and interact with the world in different ways, and to do this it was necessary to gain an understanding of the language and cultural practices of the people studied. By uniting the disciplines of archaeology, the study of material culture and history, and physical anthropology, the study of variation in human anatomy, with ethnology, the study of cultural variation of customs, and descriptive linguistics, the study of unwritten indigenous languages, Boas created the four field subdivision of anthropology which became prominent in American anthropology in the 20th century.[6]
Screaming SJW isnt gonna save you from this fuck up, Dumass.
 

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So I got my dick sucked today. Made my woman a sandwich afterwards. I don't know if I'm redpilling correctly. Please advise.
 

drtyrm

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She makes the sandwich, then you suck the dick. I think that's how it works. Damn, I suck at redpilling too.