The Greatest Lie Ever Sold: George Floyd and the Rise of BLM (2022)

Mist said:

You're either stupid or intentionally missing the fact that they're not authorized to have weapons or do anything. Further, only 340 troops out of 1100 were authorized, and the "QRF" mentioned is only 40 troops. This idea that Trump ordered 10000 or 20000 DC National Guard (as he has claimed) to be activated is nonsense, as there are not anywhere near that many DC National Guard. A governor of another state would have to nationalize that many of their own National Guard ahead of time, and then the Secretary of Defense would need to get all sorts of legal approvals in order to avoid violating the Posse Comitatus Act, and that was definitely not done. So when he claims that he ordered 10000 or 20000 National Guard deployed, he's just plain lying. When anyone claims that Nancy Pelosi had anything to do with any of it, they are lying.

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Mist said:

He repeatedly says he ordered "10000 troops." Lately on Truth Social he says 20000 troops, because "and then we doubled it!" I guess? His acting Secretary of Defense, who he directly appointed, says it isn't true.

Assuming he actually was informed enough to know the size of the DC National Guard wasn't anywhere near that many, that would require actually working with one or more governors to get that many troops, and to get the required authorizations to get around the Posse Comitatus Act, to make sure his Secretary of Defense had them armed and ready to defend the capital, and he clearly didn't do any of that. So "I ordered it!" is just another bullshit made up story about what happened that day.

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Cybsled said:

Considering his complete inability to count, him saying 10k instead of 1k is believable lol

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Ambiturner said:

So you can't cite anything from Trump where he said he ordered 20,000 DC National Guardsmen like you've said repeatedly claimed?

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Rude said:

Exhibit A of "generic retard who believes Trump is simultaneously Hitler and Barney Fife"

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On the evening of January 5—the night before a white supremacist mob stormed Capitol Hill in a siege that would leave five dead—the acting secretary of defense, Christopher Miller, was at the White House with his chief of staff, Kash Patel. They were meeting with President Trump on “an Iran issue,” Miller told me. But then the conversation switched gears. The president, Miller recalled, asked how many troops the Pentagon planned to turn out the following day. “We’re like, ‘We’re going to provide any National Guard support that the District requests,’” Miller responded. “And [Trump] goes, ‘You’re going to need 10,000 people.’ No, I’m not talking bullshit. He said that. And we’re like, ‘Maybe. But you know, someone’s going to have to ask for it.’” At that point Miller remembered the president telling him, “‘You do what you need to do. You do what you need to do.’ He said, ‘You’re going to need 10,000.’ That’s what he said. Swear to God.”

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Mist said:

You've missed the entire point, his own acting Secretary of Defense says he didn't request 10,000 of any National Guard troops, DC or otherwise. Trump keeps claiming he did, and that Nancy Pelosi (who isn't part of the process in any way) denied it.

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Mist said:

You're embarrassing yourself.

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"“I was never given any direction or order or knew of any plans of that nature." - Miller. If there were any plans at all, it would have to go through him. Period.

Also, Trump said he “suggested & offered" up to 20,000 National Guard troops be deployed. Offered what? To whom? Offer a governor's state national guard troops? Which governor? “Suggested & offered" - that's not how any of this works. You're just plain wrong and showing off how little you know about any of this.

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Mist said:

You still don't understand how any of this works, or you're lying. So stupid, or lying. Pick one, or both, stupid liars are also a thing.

You didn't bother to post the source but here it is, this Vanity Fair article of all places:

“The President Threw Us Under the Bus”: Embedding With Pentagon Leadership in Trump’s Chaotic Last Week

Throughout the final, frenzied days of the Trump administration, a reporter rode shotgun with the outgoing acting defense secretary, Christopher Miller, the man who, under the distracted eye of his commander in chief, became America’s de facto guardian.

www.vanityfair.com

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So according to this, the night before Trump says you're going to need "10,000 people." If he wanted "10,000 National Guard" like he claims (now he claims 20,000, because why not? If you're gonna lie, lie bigly) and DC only has 1100 total, then he would have had to immediately get on the phone with multiple states' governors in order to get 10,000 fully armed, armored National Guard riot police, and start signing executive orders and doing everything necessary to deploy a full armed mobilization of nationalized National Guard from multiple states to the National Capital Region while not violating the Posse Comitatus Act, on about 12 hours notice.

Again, this is not something you can do in a handwaivey, off-the cuff manner. This isn't stuff you just delegate. This requires signed orders, coordination with the governors of multiple states, etc. 10,000 National Guard is a full-on disaster response, on less than 12 hours notice. Trump at this point has been President of the United States for 4 entire years. He is not new at the job. This is not his first week. They used the National Guard at the capital for the BLM protests earlier that summer. He knows how this shit works.

If you believe any of what you're saying, you are dumb. And if you don't believe it, you are lying and wasting our time.

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