Loser Araysar
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The Green Knight (2020)
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Gavinmad
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I will say that I'd never heard of Sir Moriaen before today. But he's also a completely unimportant minor character, whereas Palamedes was a major rival/eventual comrade of Sir Tristan, even to the point of avenging Tristan's murder by slaying King Mark and being in turn murdered by Sir Gawain.
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Gavinmad
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A pleb like you probably doesn't even know the story of Tristan and Iseult(Isolde).
Can you tell me who King Pellinore is without googling it?
Gavinmad
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Maybe because you didn't ask a question?
But it's fine, just admit you don't know who the petty kings of the Arthurian mythos are and that you've never read or watched anything beyond maybe that Clive Owen movie.
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Loser Araysar
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Chukzombi
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America was built by white people. it was a bunch of brown canibals before we got here. the cool builders that we see the ruins of today were all murdered by those brown fucking canibals. my family helped build this country. that being said, i would not try to take a role that i would be racially wrong for. either should Apu Patel as Sir Gu-wan from Kebab.
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Loser Araysar
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yes and this one
now stop regurgitating wikipedia here
Gavinmad
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I'm not, the Arthurian mythos is one of those worthless bits of knowledge I know quite a bit about.
P.S. I guarantee if this was one of the later stories where Gawain was portrayed in a more villainous light, they would have cast a white dude.
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fanaskin
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They suffer from this MORE not less, fairy tales are often cultural artifacts hence the kveching over mulan, imagine the whining over lelo and stich whitey version
chaos
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I've seen Excalibur and the Monty Python movie, that is the extent of my knowledge of King Arthur's mythos. But I think that's largely because the pop culture entries into the mythos I am aware of, beyond those 2, have either been garbage or forgettable. Hopefully this one doesn't disappoint. I'm only aware of Gawain as the name of a knight but have no background on the story, but the trailer and design looks really cool.
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on a certain level i understand and somewhat agree with your point, but fundamentally it's erroneous. if you're doing a historical piece about ww2 and cast a black guy as general patton, you end up missing an entire chunk of nuance about african americans in ww2. obviously patton was white and didn't deal with any kind of racial issues so that wouldn't be a part of the story, which implies that african american soldiers were never faced any of that nonsense. it IS instrinsic to guys like General Benjamin Davis (first black general), the tuskagee airmen, etc. so making patton black actually takes away from the real life struggles that black soldiers had.
that's the problem with changing details about history or myths and legends. it fundamentally changes who these characters are based on what we already know about the time period. i like dev patel, i don't have a problem with him as an actor. but certain care has to be taken if you are trying to be faithful to the source material, in this case, arthurian legend.
though, for argument's sake, i do believe that an actor's job is about pretending to be someone you are not. it's why i think it's silly when people get all up in arms when scarjo was going to play a trans character. they were like, "she's not trans, it's disrespectful to the trans community to have the part played by a non-trans actor!" at a certain point you have to figure out that if you're the only one who's offended, maybe that means something
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Gavinmad
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Which is funny because Gawain has a pretty pivotal role in Excalibur. He was played by Liam Neeson.
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I haven't seen it since I was like 10, I mostly just remember Merlin going on about the dragon. I couldn't name a single actor in it from memory. But certain visuals, like the lady of the lake, I remember.
Hopefully this will kick off a renaissance of Arthurian legend remakes. I can't wait to see the bitching when they cast Willow Smith as the lady of the lake.
Hopefully this will kick off a renaissance of Arthurian legend remakes. I can't wait to see the bitching when they cast Willow Smith as the lady of the lake.
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Lendarios
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What?? No.
Colin Powell being casted as General Patton does not remove anything from the other black generals, because the story is not about them, it is about General Patton, a person whose story had nothing to do with race. Again, Patton's story is not about race, it is about military leadership. A black actor can deliver that without an issue. Did you see the Patton movie? Did it involved the racial struggles of the pilots? No it did not, because the story is not about them.
Now, the narrative of the movie will fall apart if in the course of the movie, he would meet Benjamin Davis and congratulates him on being the first Black General. Then the movie would make no sense.
But since it doesn't, then it would be perfectly fine.
Also most of the fairy tales of old times are 100% fictional. They are not based on historical figures. Who was Cinderella based on, and all the princes and princesses of disney.
Only snow white because her name on the book is a direct reference of her color, but for cinderella/tinkerbell etc, race of the actor has very very little significance.
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Loser Araysar
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We know ScarJo was cast because theres no tranny actors worth a shit to play that role. It was necessity
We know Pajeet got cast because "muh white spuremacy" since there is no shortage of talented white actors who could play Gawain
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lol, the fucking gymnastics to rationalize making patton black
why not make him a woman too?