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I think I’m gonna uninstall this. I swapped from MAG/BRD/BST to CLR/BRD/ENC to play something that wasn’t boring or cliched and now they’re talking about nerfing dopplegangers which will possibly now make this build lame. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t, but eh.

I think in general I’ve got my fix of this shit and I don’t want to sink any more time into it chasing the dragon.

Also I had 20-30 EOM that poofed and I was never able to get them to confirm it or look into it which is annoying.
 
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There was a really good Q&A on Broken Stoic stream with one of the lead developers. Put some things in perspective, like Zeb being tuned as a duo only encounter.

 
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Also mentioned in there was some plans to make backstabs part of the auto-attack, which frees up a lot of dumb clicking for me.
 
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What do you guys do for your bags outside of EoM bags? just run daily classic/kunark dragons and hope some legendary shit drops? lol
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If you want to do a tradeskill up to ~230 and sink some plat into it, you can make a grandmaster tool that summons bags, that in turn allows you to turn in 1 of those bags to Jolum in the Baz for a lore 30 slot 100% redux bag. The bags it summons also turn into a 25wt 0% redux bag, if left in your inventory with an item in it, while you are offline for 10+(?) minutes. I think the same things happens if you do the same with the big mage bags too though, if you aren't also a mage and they are given to you.

You get so much STR that wt hardly matters.
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mkopec

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Needless said:
Yeah i'll go back to bers/mnk when they add autoskill, shit just hurts my hand lol
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LOL you make a new hotbar ( made mine hotbar 7) and bind all the keys to some letter or number in keybind options. I did mine to 1. Place all the spam skills in there and all you have to do is spam 1 over and over. For the others you can just make macros for the burns. One click away.
 
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Burns said:
If you want to do a tradeskill up to ~230 and sink some plat into it, you can make a grandmaster tool that summons bags, that in turn allows you to turn in 1 of those bags to Jolum in the Baz for a lore 30 slot 100% redux bag. The bags it summons also turn into a 25wt 0% redux bag, if left in your inventory with an item in it, while you are offline for 10+(?) minutes. I think the same things happens if you do the same with the big mage bags too though, if you aren't also a mage and they are given to you.

You get so much STR that wt hardly matters.
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You can also just buy the grandmaster tool like I did. I think I got my grandmaster hammer for 12K. well worth it if you dont want to sit there clicking on shit for a tradeskill, never mind the running around and plat sink.
 
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Needless

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mkopec said:
LOL you make a new hotbar ( made mine hotbar 7) and bind all the keys to some letter or number in keybind options. I did mine to 1. Place all the spam skills in there and all you have to do is spam 1 over and over. For the others you can just make macros for the burns. One click away.
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oh i have a spam bar already i just mash E for all the abilities but still its just so tedious lmao
 
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Got a 1k DPS Quarm and probably became a founding member of the Quarm Purple Club (Delay Death not useless!)-
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Got my ass back up, spammed my AA's, and finished him after. Three previous kills had all pretty much been the same Quarm (750 DPS), so he caught me with my dick in my hand today.

The combo Prismatic aug definitely needs to be made to proc 100% of the time (and needs more stats too probably) for it to have any sort of value, so I recommend skipping to anyone considering it unless changes occur (as the aug is perma no trade). I still don't understand exactly what the effect is (seems to be entirely custom), but in a 4.5 minute fight against Quarm with ~40 hard casted detrimental spells- it proc'd one time. Meanwhile, Prismatic Strike VII procs every time on those same casts, and items with it on it are basically free at this point.

edit- the one benefit I did find about the aug is that it will slot into a Shield/non-weapon Range slot, so you do not need to give up your weapon augs for it.
 
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And, and I don't know if any Monk/Berserker/Cleric can solo Quarm? Has anyone been able to pull that off? Seems like an exercise in masochism if so.
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You can. I've killed him multiple times now. But only once was the fight anything resembling "typical". Pretty much every time I fight him it's a balls to the wall fight for my life. And I had two lockouts of him where I literally couldn't kill him, despite trying multiple strats, swapping gear, etc.

It sucks, because I love the class fantasy of a giant 2Her, but it was obvious when they did the big "redesign" of PAL that this server's dev team has a hardon for blue damage. Unfortunately I didn't see the writing on the wall then, because DA/CLR was still in a really strong spot. Once they also nerfed DA, that should've been the big wakeup call. But, sunken cost fallacy and all that.

Like I said, the build isn't "bad" and it can certainly do content. It's just WAY more effort than it should be, especially compared to other top "meta" builds. Even when things are going "smoothly", you're still CONSTANTLY having to spam attacks with all the strikes, rage volley, frenzy, etc. And one of the devs just today, in fact, said that he's abandoning adding /autoskill into the game. The "super AUG" they created is yet another example - where they just basically told melee chars to go fuck themselves with the effects it has on it.

I'd caution anybody playing to keep away from melee focused builds with this dev team. I'm just going to keep him parked at his bindpoint outside Sleeper's and just AUG farm with him.
 
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Most of the berz/clr/mnk Quarm solos I’ve read about have swapped to dual wielding or shield + 1h for survivability. DPS tanks, but at least you win. I’m only on elemental plane flagging so haven’t tried it myself yet
 
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Talenvor said:
Most of the berz/clr/mnk Quarm solos I’ve read about have swapped to dual wielding or shield + 1h for survivability. DPS tanks, but at least you win. I’m only on elemental plane flagging so haven’t tried it myself yet
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Yup. Which again calls into question the point of the build. At that point, just roll PAL and at least get the bonus damage for using 1H/Shield. I've swapped on Quarm a couple times to 1H+Shield to get him down. It just left me wondering wtf I'm playing a BER at that point.

I'd also expect HoHV to get nerfed, because it's making its way into a lot of "meta" builds and the Devs hate when a particular item makes a build/class popular.
 
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Who said they are abandoning it, because in their stream, posted above, the dude said its his first task when he gets back from vacation. And it should be live within 2 weeks. I was his top priority, it made it to top of his list.
 
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Yup. Which again calls into question the point of the build. At that point, just roll PAL and at least get the bonus damage for using 1H/Shield. I've swapped on Quarm a couple times to 1H+Shield to get him down. It just left me wondering wtf I'm playing a BER at that point.

I'd also expect HoHV to get nerfed, because it's making its way into a lot of "meta" builds and the Devs hate when a particular item makes a build/class popular.
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BER with 1h and shield spec from Pally basically does same dmg, parse wise. Loss of like 100DPS or some trivial shit. You lose out on the big volleys from Ber, but make up for it in auto attack from Pally. Plus from what I have been reading, The additional shield AC can furrther increase AC if youre hitting soft cap. So if you equip the shield its like bonus AC whether youre soft capped or not.

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So even with POP, youre talking about a difference of ~200 dps going from shied+1h to a 2h, but you lose out on all that mitigation. Is it worth?

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mkopec said:
Who said they are abandoning it, because in their stream, posted above, the dude said its his first task when he gets back from vacation. And it should be live within 2 weeks. I was his top priority, it made it to top of his list.
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mkopec

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LOL WTF?? Maybe hes just trolling. The dude loves to troll. I mean that stream was the 27th? WTF changed in a few days? Hes supposedly on vacation, lol.
 
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mkopec said:
LOL WTF?? Maybe hes just trolling. The dude loves to troll. I mean that stream was the 27th? WTF changed in a few days? Hes supposedly on vacation, lol.
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Supposedly he's back and after diving into the code to add support for archery so that it can be your "auto attack" toggle instead of a melee weapon, he decided fuck auto skill.

Maybe he's trolling, but based on the context of the whole conversation, I don't think he is.
 
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LOL WTF??
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Supposedly he's back and after diving into the code to add support for archery so that it can be your "auto attack" toggle instead of a melee weapon, he decided fuck auto skill.

Maybe he's trolling, but based on the context of the whole conversation, I don't think he is.
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Well thats too bad then. It was their grand talking point during the stream it seemed like.

Edit: That aporia dude did mention that he was going to do a "fun balance pass" when the SSF and Dungeon finer BS is done, so there is that to look forward to.
 
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mkopec said:
BER with 1h and shield spec from Pally basically does same dmg, parse wise. Loss of like 100DPS or some trivial shit. You lose out on the big volleys from Ber, but make up for it in auto attack from Pally. Plus from what I have been reading, The additional shield AC can furrther increase AC if youre hitting soft cap. So if you equip the shield its like bonus AC whether youre soft capped or not.

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So even with POP, youre talking about a difference of ~200 dps going from shied+1h to a 2h, but you lose out on all that mitigation. Is it worth?

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Was wondering why it looked like a lot of people on Disc were swapping out Cleric for Paladin in the CLR/MNK/Zerk. I didn't really look closely at Hopebringer, but I guess it's that much better than the SK Cudgel(?).
 
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