The Heroes Journey (Multiclass EQemu Progression Server)

Needless said:

What kind of route are you guys that swarm all of DN in one pull doing? i've been doing nadox on my 43 sk/wiz/brd but im gonna lvl up to 56 and swap to DN

I gotta say though, this need to farm like 1500+ AAs is pretty dull and is kinda killing the fun of the progression aspect lol. Could also just be swarming in general is more tedious than anything with their EoM paywalled autosell bags, and how awful it is trying to loot shit stacked on top of each other

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I did DN in two pulls, but at 60 I didn't need cooldowns for the top, nor for most pulls in the tunnels. At 56 you probably would need cooldowns for both, which means there isn't enough cooldowns. I made a map for my 2 pull DN probably 10 pages+ back (a rare time I miss search).

Doing the "whole" zone in 1 pull, chain casting the Wiz epic, at 56 might be doable, but it will probably be a big pain in the ass. I think Swarming 75% of PoFire as bard/wiz is easier, but don't know what level you would need to be to be successful in 1 deftdance cooldown window.

Needless said:

I read UP is good for loot but might have been nerfed recently? either way yeah i guess its probably just not worth looting in most cases, DN is probably worse than nadox from the time i was down killing rats on my ber/mnk/shm

Whats a good way to get plat then prior to having pop unlocked? i still need to kill the emp and the other guy in ssra

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Don't know about UP nerf, but it is/was at least 10k and hour the couple times I tired it for XP swarming.

There is a loot macro that makes looting MUCH easier. I bind both the loot macro and target closest corpse (UI hotkey options menu) to F and then just spam F near the stack. There is also a sell macro, that just requires you to select the item while at a vendor, and press the macro; which speeds things up on that end.

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Needless said:

Ohh okay splitting it into 2 makes much more sense, i'll try that later once i level up to 56 later. I've been doing that chain casting the wiz epic for doing most of nadox in 1 pull so i figured id just keep doing it in DN lol

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Forgot to add that the mobs in UP/PoFire do summon, so to get them all in melee, I would use a corner or an immune shield and sit there while they ran up. I haven't tried this, but with the change to the way summon works, you might be able to get a single mob outside of the pack to summon you, then be immune to summon for however long (20seconds?).

What is the 2hander and 1hander/w shield for Monk/SK builds you would recommend?

hory said:

What is the 2hander and 1hander/w shield for Monk/SK builds you would recommend?

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Not sure what 2h's an SK gets that a monk doesn't, but Monk BiS 2h is Staff of Transcendence. The 1h/shield combo is probably Cudgel of Venomous Hatred & Shield of Strife. The SK full dps mode I've seen usually does DW, which would be Cudgel MH and Hammer of Wrecking or Ethereal Destroyer OH (maybe a few others).

Fight said:

You do not need to kill all the adds that the bosses spawn. You can do some funky stuff, like pulling some of the bosses out of their rooms, then FD right as the adds spawn and pop right back up to have them not come after you.

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Appreciate the tip! I usually leave the adds up since they make me stronger from the Reptile heals, but the last wave of Innoruuk makes it all collectively outdamage the heal and make the fight closer than I'd like. I've been pulling him out of the room already, so will give that a shot next time.

I did go ahead and made the combo prismatic scale this morning (15 legendary prismatic augs + the four elemental essences). Price on the Crucible was already crashing now that people know it's not a world beater item/aug, so I picked it up for 100k and grit my teeth and bought a Blocking aug for 300k. Total cost all-in was 700k or so, but I already had a bunch of extra augs banked from right before the PoP launch and had an extra Dodging drop a few days ago, so it'll be considerably costlier buying from scratch.

Up-front focus on the aug is as-expected- 10% chance to proc the nuke as I'm spamming DoTs, but there's also an unmentioned component where you proc an RNG spell off your melee. I've seen a DD and a DoT (5 base damage but chunking for 3k with black wolf), and then supposedly there's a 50% prismatic check slow and maybe a couple others, so it does have some benefit for melee. I didn't get a bunch of time with it this morning, but I suspect with the length of a Seru + 4 fight for me (downed him three times now, typically takes 15+ minutes bah) I should be able to see all the effects in action later tonight.

Probably not worth it (unless the slow works on Zeb), but you just run out of things to buy with plat so why not.

This will probably be the last expansion for my CLR/MNK/BER combo. I think I might swap out the BER for WAR. Or just start hardcore gearing my SK/RNG/BRD now.

It's pretty obvious the devs think melee should be pretty shitty compared to SP and melee really need AAs to scale, since they don't really get any benefit from "new" spells like casters do. If AAs are truly locked in, there's really no place for them to go. Weapons just aren't scaling fast enough. Palladius is a great example - it is still roughly a BIS, 2 expansions later, just because of all the AC and lifetap it provides. 2Hers in PoP are pretty "meh" overall and haven't scaled DPS enough to offset the increasing need for mitigation and/or killing shit before it kills you.

CLR/MNK/BER is still a solid build, but it's so much more difficult than it has to be now and watching other combos practically kill Quarm afk while I'm fighting for my life? Not interested in it.

Kirun said:

This will probably be the last expansion for my CLR/MNK/BER combo. I think I might swap out the BER for WAR. Or just start hardcore gearing my SK/RNG/BRD now.

It's pretty obvious the devs think melee should be pretty shitty compared to SP and melee really need AAs to scale, since they don't really get any benefit from "new" spells like casters do. If AAs are truly locked in, there's really no place for them to go. Weapons just aren't scaling fast enough. Palladius is a great example - it is still roughly a BIS, 2 expansions later, just because of all the AC and lifetap it provides. 2Hers in PoP are pretty "meh" overall and haven't scaled DPS enough to offset the increasing need for mitigation and/or killing shit before it kills you.

CLR/MNK/BER is still a solid build, but it's so much more difficult than it has to be now and watching other combos practically kill Quarm afk while I'm fighting for my life? Not interested in it.

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I tend to agree with you, it is just that my knowledge of the other classes and combinations is mostly hearsay from here, discord, etc.

It is super disappointing that Luclin and PoP both only brought "side-grades" updates to our weapons. Sure, I use a legendary Staff of Transcendence, but it hasn't revolutionized my dps in anyway.

Spamming fast heals, gimping my dps, is very tiresome on pretty much all the Plane of Time fights. Then add in the need to cure Curses, Poisons and that is even more time my white damage is on halt. I can get the job done, it just is all very long, drawn out, and cumbersome that many of the other classes don't seem to complain about.

Honestly, Monk is the one that feels essential to my Monk/Berserker/Cleric character. And, that is mostly due to FD/Agro clear and all the things you can do with that. I have found Time to be so much more enjoyable with a partner. It takes the multi-hour slogfest down to just under sub-one hour. That could not and will not ever happen for my character solo. And, and I don't know if any Monk/Berserker/Cleric can solo Quarm? Has anyone been able to pull that off? Seems like an exercise in masochism if so.

Kirun said:

This will probably be the last expansion for my CLR/MNK/BER combo. I think I might swap out the BER for WAR. Or just start hardcore gearing my SK/RNG/BRD now.

It's pretty obvious the devs think melee should be pretty shitty compared to SP and melee really need AAs to scale, since they don't really get any benefit from "new" spells like casters do. If AAs are truly locked in, there's really no place for them to go. Weapons just aren't scaling fast enough. Palladius is a great example - it is still roughly a BIS, 2 expansions later, just because of all the AC and lifetap it provides. 2Hers in PoP are pretty "meh" overall and haven't scaled DPS enough to offset the increasing need for mitigation and/or killing shit before it kills you.

CLR/MNK/BER is still a solid build, but it's so much more difficult than it has to be now and watching other combos practically kill Quarm afk while I'm fighting for my life? Not interested in it.

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Yeah, I've got some sunken cost thing going on with my Mnk/Zerk/Clr, where I have been tossing him gear (Helm, Chest, Arms, Belt) and still cant come close on Quarm. I guess it's a goal to shoot for, since Zek doesn't seem soloable by most classes anyway.

Janx said:

Did you solo Xegony on that character or have to get some help? That fight just seems retarded for non caster/pets. Big thanks to SorrowsEnd for helping me get that whore down.

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nah i duo'd most of the progression with a friend.

Well I'm having a fucking blast on this server but I'm only level 30 farming some AA's in lguk. This seems like the game I always wanted. All the nostalgia and no reliance on other people.

Kunark dragons are quick and easy for bags. I spent a bit of time farming the crypt in Seb to get that legendary box drop, plus a couple enchanted ones prior to being able to kill the dragons.

FWIW, the EoM bags (esp the two selling bags) are worth their weight in gold.