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Kaines said:
I fear I may have screwed up my build. I've made it to 31 and started in LGuk at the Bedroom. I've turned off xp to start AA farming, but I'm not sure I'm killing efficiently enough. I hear of people soloing Naggy and Vox and I'm struggling to kill 2 yellows at the same time. A pack 4 or 5 even cons and I'm pretty dead. Am I expecting too much too early or did i screw up somewhere?
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Yeah, it feels pretty shitty until you start getting some AA. Combat Agility and Combat Stability are the two I always start with. 8 is a good "stopping" point for a while. But, I usually drop 4 in each, then focus on a couple of key/defining AA for each class I have, then pop them up to 8.
 
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Some builds are strong off the bat but don't scale that great and some are weak but become very strong with some critical AAs.

Early on 2 or even 3 dps class builds kill so quickly that tankiness or healing or slows don't matter, nothing lives long enough for that to matter so you feel very powerful vs trash, but after classic the further bosses get passed that 32k health limit the more sustain starts to matter.

Trinity builds thst have tank/dps/heals or slows take a bunch of AAs/gear/spell power until your kill speed or tanking or healing or whatever allows you to kill efficiently but you'll appreciate that sustain later on.
 
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Might end up rerolling. It looks like the PAL changes helped, but theoretically their sustain should be even HIGHER than an SK because they don't get the damage component attached. Right now SK sustainability is not only higher, but they get the DPS attached with it.

PAL is just a waste of a class right now, especially going into Velious and the huge lack of undead. PAL are great AA machines, but once you have that mostly "done", I think you're wasting a slot by sticking with them as a 3rd. Even Cleric brings better DPS tools and obviously better healing/cures. Still brings plate AC as well.
 
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Kaines said:
I fear I may have screwed up my build. I've made it to 31 and started in LGuk at the Bedroom. I've turned off xp to start AA farming, but I'm not sure I'm killing efficiently enough. I hear of people soloing Naggy and Vox and I'm struggling to kill 2 yellows at the same time. A pack 4 or 5 even cons and I'm pretty dead. Am I expecting too much too early or did i screw up somewhere?
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I started with the SK/ROG/CLR build, since Janx Janx was talking about it as being able to, comfortably, take on all content at high levels. I took it to 20, but since it felt slow I decided I needed some gear. I thought I should try to make some plate and a weapon with blacksmithing, but since it was so slow, I needed a new toon to farm up some rusty weps to skill up.

Pet class was supposed to be good with trash, so made a Mag/BST/ENC and it was a night/day difference. Since it was so fast, I took the pets toon to 35, switched to AAxp, headed to LGuk and picked Dire Charm first. With the Frenzied Ghoul, pets can almost clear the whole undead side before respawn (w/ Doppleganger upgraded too)... so no need for rusty weps to level blacksmithing now.

After 100 AA on pets toon, switch back to SK/ROG/CLR and it feels even worse, since it's still slow as shit. Made enough plat with pets class that I can buy some cheap gear. Load up with cleric plate, since it has spell power and some spear with 80 base dmg w/ 44 delay (lego quality Sharpened Bloodtusk for 1pp on AH).

Now, as level 30, went to Lguk and killing shit is still slow as shit (compared to pets) since most dmg comes from backstab, but at least all the rooms have been survivable (Lord wasn't up).

I don't really know what AA should be priority for the SK/ROG/CLR to make things faster. I took a few rank 1s of the abilities that add procs, but they are low percent.
 
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For rogue you really need any poison AA, spell crit AAs, and make sure to use the highest craftable anger poison. Stack as much spell damage as you can find.

For the record, I am a SK/rog/shaman and i was able to clear both dead and live side of guk at lvl 30 after a couple hundred AA.
 
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Kaines

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Nulolan said:
For the record, I am a SK/rog/shaman and i was able to clear both dead and live side of guk at lvl 30 after a couple hundred AA.
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Like I said before, I'm doing WAR/SHM/MAG and while I'm slow killing, I can already tell with a few hundred AA, my sustain is going to be unreal. I'm definitely looking forward to the longer Velious fights.
 
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I started with the SK/ROG/CLR build, since Janx Janx was talking about it as being able to, comfortably, take on all content at high levels. I took it to 20, but since it felt slow I decided I needed some gear. I thought I should try to make some plate and a weapon with blacksmithing, but since it was so slow, I needed a new toon to farm up some rusty weps to skill up.

Pet class was supposed to be good with trash, so made a Mag/BST/ENC and it was a night/day difference. Since it was so fast, I took the pets toon to 35, switched to AAxp, headed to LGuk and picked Dire Charm first. With the Frenzied Ghoul, pets can almost clear the whole undead side before respawn (w/ Doppleganger upgraded too)... so no need for rusty weps to level blacksmithing now.

After 100 AA on pets toon, switch back to SK/ROG/CLR and it feels even worse, since it's still slow as shit. Made enough plat with pets class that I can buy some cheap gear. Load up with cleric plate, since it has spell power and some spear with 80 base dmg w/ 44 delay (lego quality Sharpened Bloodtusk for 1pp on AH).

Now, as level 30, went to Lguk and killing shit is still slow as shit (compared to pets) since most dmg comes from backstab, but at least all the rooms have been survivable (Lord wasn't up).

I don't really know what AA should be priority for the SK/ROG/CLR to make things faster. I took a few rank 1s of the abilities that add procs, but they are low percent.
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Get poisons. Get the tap stuff from SK. Touch of the Cursed I think? Envenomed Blades, Virulant Poison, ambidexterity under Class, and get combat fury to at least 3 as a lot of stuff requires that as a pre-req. The cleric summoned hammer is actually really good since it procs like a mofo. Will suffer a small backstab dmg loss being non pierce though. Without slay undead I honestly wouldn't even bother with guk. Get to 35ish then hit up Dulaks harbor. Can run you through vox/naggy if you need Kunark unlocked. Just let me know when you're on.
 
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buy the spider venom from bazaar specifically too
at ard 200aa sk clr rog you should be able to pull the whole bedroom floor and kill with ease. pop divine avart every 6mins and just auto attack with many procs and self heals
 
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Janx said:
Oh yeah, and get 1 point at least in Anatomy. Allows you to assassinate up to 46
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Great, thanks. Put 1 point into Touch of Cursed, then went onto poisons with Env Blades and Virulant Poison.

I guess the spear I bought was a noob trap, hence why it's so cheap? I ran it through a P99 damage calc I found, and it looked really good:
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Using the level 30 hammer and Sword of Runes from mage summon:
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does not stack, you can get from player auctions, spider bite poison. its better than anger.
max out virulent venom, touched of the curse, soul abrasion, envenomed blades, and some into theft of life first.
You can see Janx's final build a few pages back to get a whole idea

btw whats your ign? I can parcel you some hand me downs and also 1handed that dw will help
 
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Anybody know how bad the overlap of BST/SHM is?

I'm thinking of running SK/Nec/SHM for my next build, but I'm liking the pet proc buffs BST will add to the SK and SHM pets, as well as Bloodlust, Frenzy, mini clarity, etc. Also gets the SK dual wield for Gharn's and SK epic or just double Gharn's.
 
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Blueweed said:
does not stack, you can get from player auctions, spider bite poison. its better than anger.
max out virulent venom, touched of the curse, soul abrasion, envenomed blades, and some into theft of life first.
You can see Janx's final build a few pages back to get a whole idea

btw whats your ign? I can parcel you some hand me downs and also 1handed that dw will help
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Ah, I see a few spider bite IVs on the AH. Seems like a pain in the ass to keep up, as well as expensive, if they are dropped only.

Janx ran me through the key for Kunark and gave me a few items too, so should be in good shape with the other stuff I found in the AH.
 
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Fired this up to play casual. If anyone has some junk send it over, named horyuken. War monk sham
 
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Leaning towards War/Monk/Shaman also. Is it a huge mistake to go monk over rogue, or is the expectation that monk will eventually take over?
 
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Early on rogue is the best add for dps because of poisons, backstabs also pretty good, and vs live mobs assassinate helps your aa rate if you are killing humanoid mobs. Idk how monk stacks up but with a few hundred AA (I'm at 1200 AA now) berserker definitely overtakes rogue on the dmg front so I imagine monk must also.
 
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Janx said:
Get poisons. Get the tap stuff from SK. Touch of the Cursed I think? Envenomed Blades, Virulant Poison, ambidexterity under Class, and get combat fury to at least 3 as a lot of stuff requires that as a pre-req. The cleric summoned hammer is actually really good since it procs like a mofo. Will suffer a small backstab dmg loss being non pierce though. Without slay undead I honestly wouldn't even bother with guk. Get to 35ish then hit up Dulaks harbor. Can run you through vox/naggy if you need Kunark unlocked. Just let me know when you're on.
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Is your in game name Janx? I could really use the kunark flag. Thanks!!
 
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