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Witless

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Farm about another 1000 AA swarm kiting Nadox for AUGs.
Nah, hit 56 or 60, farm AA in DN and play around with other content. 56 is where you maximize exp from level 60 rats. 60 is to limit the level difference between you and raid targets.
 
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Kirun

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Nah, hit 56 or 60, farm AA in DN and play around with other content. 56 is where you maximize exp from level 60 rats. 60 is to limit the level difference between you and raid targets.
Except Nadox gets you AA + solid AUGs or plat if you're new. And at 400 AA, I'd assume new.

DN is the meta if you're sitting at 3000 veterancy.
 

Sylas

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Ok been doing Nadox on my 53 ranger and i'm going to be honest, i'm either terrible at this game or everyone is lying.

Everyone claims they can pull the entire zone, kill everything, then spend 10 minutes looting while waiting for the zone to respawn and repeat. Now granted that's probably hyperbole, i doubt they are pulling the east half of the zone (with all the trolls which are light blue even at 53) and assume they mean they are pulling just the Luggald area or just the docks or whatever.

But even this seems to be insane to me. There are 3 main areas. North luggald area (harder area where innoruuk spawns) the middle Luggald area (which has 4 rooms off of a big room) and the tunnels + the docks where all the undead trolls are (this isn't as many mobs but its much more running to gather everything up)

I remember when these zones first released on this emu, we were still new and we were all fresh 60s in kunark gear but we were grouping to do these areas, and even in a group with dedicated healers and multiple tanks cycling through counterattack etc we still could not pull entire areas much less the entire zone.

Granted there is better gear out now and my ranger is decently equipped, at 53 i am tanking better than my 60 SK did in kunark gear....but still no where close to pulling the entire (west) half of the zone, not even close to pulling all of one of those 3 areas. we're talking 30-75 mobs per pull, how are people doing this?

I'm maxing out around 20-25 mobs before the dmg is too overwhelming for me to handle. that's breaking up the high level area into 3 pulls, the middle area (with 4 rooms) into 3 pulls, or the whole cave/undead dock area. That one is the most annoying since it takes the most traveling to gather up everything so i've just been sticking to the highest level area up top.
 
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Burns

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Except Nadox gets you AA + solid AUGs or plat if you're new. And at 400 AA, I'd assume new.

DN is the meta if you're sitting at 3000 veterancy.
I was fine doing Dragon Necropolis at around ~550 AA (zero vet bonus) with level 56 SK/ROG/WIZ.

I do the big rat cave complex area in the east in 3 pulls (almost every single rat from the water pool after the drop from slimes). At ~650 AA I was ahead of time on the pulls and added the rats in the temple above, as well as anything added on the way up. It's faster AA than Nadox, but yea, no AUGs. You go get a bunch of "special" Velium weapons that you can turn in for ~800 tribute.
 
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Jox

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Ok been doing Nadox on my 53 ranger and i'm going to be honest, i'm either terrible at this game or everyone is lying.

Everyone claims they can pull the entire zone, kill everything, then spend 10 minutes looting while waiting for the zone to respawn and repeat. Now granted that's probably hyperbole, i doubt they are pulling the east half of the zone (with all the trolls which are light blue even at 53) and assume they mean they are pulling just the Luggald area or just the docks or whatever.

But even this seems to be insane to me. There are 3 main areas. North luggald area (harder area where innoruuk spawns) the middle Luggald area (which has 4 rooms off of a big room) and the tunnels + the docks where all the undead trolls are (this isn't as many mobs but its much more running to gather everything up)

I remember when these zones first released on this emu, we were still new and we were all fresh 60s in kunark gear but we were grouping to do these areas, and even in a group with dedicated healers and multiple tanks cycling through counterattack etc we still could not pull entire areas much less the entire zone.

Granted there is better gear out now and my ranger is decently equipped, at 53 i am tanking better than my 60 SK did in kunark gear....but still no where close to pulling the entire (west) half of the zone, not even close to pulling all of one of those 3 areas. we're talking 30-75 mobs per pull, how are people doing this?

I'm maxing out around 20-25 mobs before the dmg is too overwhelming for me to handle. that's breaking up the high level area into 3 pulls, the middle area (with 4 rooms) into 3 pulls, or the whole cave/undead dock area. That one is the most annoying since it takes the most traveling to gather up everything so i've just been sticking to the highest level area up top.
I did it a few times before swapping my SK to War. You would deflection for 12?s and try to get a mortal coil proc during that and if you didn't get one you leech curse disc. I was doing in non respawn instances when I was farming Inny loot there so it's not like it was doable every 10 minutes in a respawning instance.
 

Nulolan

Golden Knight of the Realm
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How does Shd/shm/rog swarm? Not a lot of AOE options?
Infectious cloud, ae weps (fayguard, earthshaker etc), ae weps on pets or fennin ro legs/helm. Ideally those things combined, minus maybe pet at a certain point..haven't summoned either of mine In ages.
 

Burns

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How does Shd/shm/rog swarm? Not a lot of AOE options?
While I have Wiz instead of Shm, I think it would be mostly the same. I want to collect 20+ rats (in DN) so I can always be riposting, which procs heals and poison too. I did eventually start casting some Wiz AoE spells, but only if I am at 100% and just used backstab, which was not that often when I have only killed 1 or 2 mob out of the 20+ in the pack.
 
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Grez

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Just got Velious access. 50 sk/shm/rog 400aa, sk and shaman epics.

What’s a good path from here?
Dragon necropolis. grind out ~2000 AA. You'll find others. Hit raid targets that you can handle and epic camps for money.
 
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Grez

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Ok been doing Nadox on my 53 ranger and i'm going to be honest, i'm either terrible at this game or everyone is lying.

Everyone claims they can pull the entire zone, kill everything, then spend 10 minutes looting while waiting for the zone to respawn and repeat. Now granted that's probably hyperbole, i doubt they are pulling the east half of the zone (with all the trolls which are light blue even at 53) and assume they mean they are pulling just the Luggald area or just the docks or whatever.

But even this seems to be insane to me. There are 3 main areas. North luggald area (harder area where innoruuk spawns) the middle Luggald area (which has 4 rooms off of a big room) and the tunnels + the docks where all the undead trolls are (this isn't as many mobs but its much more running to gather everything up)

I remember when these zones first released on this emu, we were still new and we were all fresh 60s in kunark gear but we were grouping to do these areas, and even in a group with dedicated healers and multiple tanks cycling through counterattack etc we still could not pull entire areas much less the entire zone.

Granted there is better gear out now and my ranger is decently equipped, at 53 i am tanking better than my 60 SK did in kunark gear....but still no where close to pulling the entire (west) half of the zone, not even close to pulling all of one of those 3 areas. we're talking 30-75 mobs per pull, how are people doing this?

I'm maxing out around 20-25 mobs before the dmg is too overwhelming for me to handle. that's breaking up the high level area into 3 pulls, the middle area (with 4 rooms) into 3 pulls, or the whole cave/undead dock area. That one is the most annoying since it takes the most traveling to gather up everything so i've just been sticking to the highest level area up top.
all sorts of abilities can make you immune to attacks long enough to aoe the horde down. For me, harm shield and divine aura will buy ~50 seconds of immunity for the horde to assemble in one spot while i wait. Whirlwind disc or deflection disc will prevent damage while i start blasting. With twincast and battle frenzy, everything is dead in 2 casts.
 
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taimaishoo

Golden Knight of the Realm
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Ok been doing Nadox on my 53 ranger and i'm going to be honest, i'm either terrible at this game or everyone is lying.

Everyone claims they can pull the entire zone, kill everything, then spend 10 minutes looting while waiting for the zone to respawn and repeat. Now granted that's probably hyperbole, i doubt they are pulling the east half of the zone (with all the trolls which are light blue even at 53) and assume they mean they are pulling just the Luggald area or just the docks or whatever.

But even this seems to be insane to me. There are 3 main areas. North luggald area (harder area where innoruuk spawns) the middle Luggald area (which has 4 rooms off of a big room) and the tunnels + the docks where all the undead trolls are (this isn't as many mobs but its much more running to gather everything up)

I remember when these zones first released on this emu, we were still new and we were all fresh 60s in kunark gear but we were grouping to do these areas, and even in a group with dedicated healers and multiple tanks cycling through counterattack etc we still could not pull entire areas much less the entire zone.

Granted there is better gear out now and my ranger is decently equipped, at 53 i am tanking better than my 60 SK did in kunark gear....but still no where close to pulling the entire (west) half of the zone, not even close to pulling all of one of those 3 areas. we're talking 30-75 mobs per pull, how are people doing this?

I'm maxing out around 20-25 mobs before the dmg is too overwhelming for me to handle. that's breaking up the high level area into 3 pulls, the middle area (with 4 rooms) into 3 pulls, or the whole cave/undead dock area. That one is the most annoying since it takes the most traveling to gather up everything so i've just been sticking to the highest level area up top.
What classes are you? As SK/Bard/Wiz I was pulling the entire zone at level 46 and aeing it down (minus those light blues before the door downstairs because they don’t give enough exp to justify the time adding them in).

I’d start by grabbing everything in the luggald area, then run to the troll area and grab all of them, pull them to the big circle then just run in circles casting denon’s desperate dirge until everything is dead (it crits for 12-15k depending on cooldowns).

Same thing for DN. I can kill the entire zone in 1 pull sans the rats near Zlandicar because they summon. Makes buying stuff much cheaper because I can level it from normal rarity to legendary in about 4 pulls

*edit* the more spell power you have the easier/faster this is
 

Witless

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Except Nadox gets you AA + solid AUGs or plat if you're new. And at 400 AA, I'd assume new.

DN is the meta if you're sitting at 3000 veterancy.
In DN you can make 5 to 10k a night selling armor gems, make better xp than Nadox, and be at a level where you can pause and try content instead of burning yourself out grinding one specific zone when you are new.
 
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Muligan

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What classes are you? As SK/Bard/Wiz I was pulling the entire zone at level 46 and aeing it down (minus those light blues before the door downstairs because they don’t give enough exp to justify the time adding them in).

I’d start by grabbing everything in the luggald area, then run to the troll area and grab all of them, pull them to the big circle then just run in circles casting denon’s desperate dirge until everything is dead (it crits for 12-15k depending on cooldowns).

Same thing for DN. I can kill the entire zone in 1 pull sans the rats near Zlandicar because they summon. Makes buying stuff much cheaper because I can level it from normal rarity to legendary in about 4 pulls

*edit* the more spell power you have the easier/faster this is

This is my class make-up... I'm stacking all of my AA's into Crit which I'm assuming is the play but do you care to give your top 10 AA priority list or whatever number of AA abilities are absolutely necessary? Adding a wiz to my rotation has taken me into uncharted waters in terms of class knowledge. You would think that as long as I have played this game I would know a little bit about every class but never really played a Wiz very much... lol
 

Yeahs73

Trakanon Raider
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Currently running RNG/SK/BRD. Only 30 going to start AA”S does not feel all that strong at this point, but hoping that some of the core skills will get it going. Have an SK/RG/Shm and the power difference is large at the moment. Thinking of maybe taking the SK out of the Ranger build and maybe putting cleric in. Any thoughts or ideas are welcome. Definitely a noob at all of this, Sylas got me lunar flagged last night so nice to be able to change things up and do some Kunark content.
 

Kirun

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In DN you can make 5 to 10k a night selling armor gems, make better xp than Nadox, and be at a level where you can pause and try content instead of burning yourself out grinding one specific zone when you are new.
In Nadox you can be making 5-15k a night selling jewelcrafting gems(DN gem drops are very infrequent and really only have value if you get Flawed Sea Sapphires), make comparable AA exp to DN, and be in a place financially where you can start affording gear upgrades. Or you keep the AUGS instead of selling them to not have to break the bank shelling out for AUGs later, because you're getting them as drops.

Nadox is just better as a new player. It's not quite the AA exp that DN is, sure, but it's not so drastically different that Nadox isn't a better option when you still need cash and/or AUGs. It's not like you're going to Nadox getting 40 AA/hour and then DN is 180 AA/hour. It's more like 130 vs. 180, but Nadox is giving you better supplemental income on top of solid AA exp.

Now, if you're sitting at 5000 veterancy AA bonus and just need to level your alt ASAP? Sure, park at 55 and hit DN.