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Tmac
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This show watches like low budget sci-fi with bad writing, change my mind. Firefly is a 20x more interesting space cowboy than Mandoboreian.
I watched the first three episodes of Season 2 with my fifteen-year-old nephew and found myself drifting off to sleep, or on my phone, etc. in every episode. In that sense, Season 2 is much like the latter part of Season 1.
The first few episodes of Season 1 were great. What happened? What am I missing here? Why do people like this show?
I watched the first three episodes of Season 2 with my fifteen-year-old nephew and found myself drifting off to sleep, or on my phone, etc. in every episode. In that sense, Season 2 is much like the latter part of Season 1.
The first few episodes of Season 1 were great. What happened? What am I missing here? Why do people like this show?
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Harshaw
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Hoss
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It's about equal with The Witcher in every important way other than linear story telling and I think 1 or 3 people watched that. Looks like you're wrong again.
Loser Araysar
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Aside from Henry Cavill's portrayal of Witcher, the Netflix Witcher show is flaming garbage. It's rather disappointing too as SJWs fucked up what would be a money printing franchise for years to come.
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Loser Araysar
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Who cares if its highest rated? KUWTK was garbage and aired for 15 years because of high ratings.
If anything, The Witcher proves me right.
A show that is set in the age of medieval Europe is now tortured into becoming a paean to 21st century wokeness.
Now imagine a show about a monster hunter but without the Witcher IP, Witcher mythos, Witcher lore.
Monsters are all bad CGI, the writing would be terrible if it wasnt saved by the fact that theyre simply copying the good parts from the books, the world building is ripped straight from the books too. There is absolutely nothing in that show that is done better than the games or the books. The characters are laughable because theyre opposite of what made them work in the games/books
Without the WItcher IP, this show would be another Hemlock Grove. Oh you forgot already about "Hemlock Grove"?
Hoss
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You're so edgy bro. I bet you don't need a razor to shave. KUWTK was garbage that aired for 15 years and somehow that means no one watched it? I don't even know wtf KUWTK is. Just laughing at your interpretation of the facts as you laid them out.
To me the witcher is nothing but a series. There was no lore from anywhere else coloring my judgement. But even if there was, you specifically called out STAR WARS IP. You did not leave that open ended or specify that it not be part of any IP. Unless you're trying to say The Witcher is really star wars, you're just fucking flailing here and making a fool of yourself.
To me the witcher is nothing but a series. There was no lore from anywhere else coloring my judgement. But even if there was, you specifically called out STAR WARS IP. You did not leave that open ended or specify that it not be part of any IP. Unless you're trying to say The Witcher is really star wars, you're just fucking flailing here and making a fool of yourself.
Loser Araysar
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Being highest rated and being garbage isnt mutually exclusive. I dont know what you expected by trying to validate Witcher's quality by its ratings.
Its sad how difficult it is for you to grasp something so basic.
Without a pre-existing IP that already has done the yeoman's work of building worlds, lore and stories - neither The Mandalorian nor Witcher could stand on their own as serialized TV shows because they're just not good shows. At best they're just warmed over copies of shows like Hercules, Xena, stuff that local networks would show in syndication, on a Saturday at 4 PM. Cheap CGI, stories with barely any effort. plot that is barely connected between episodes
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But you know what is mutually exclusive? "Highly Rated" and "Nobody Watching"
It's like "Araysar" and "Honest"
What does the pre-existing lore bring to the table when I didn't consume any of it? The shows in The Witcher stand on their own. Are you saying the existence of it is what matters? So what, they just need writers? Because that's what writers do. Maybe your point is that they need more writers to make the rich deep lore that you crave in the same way putin craves cock. How many writers did they have for each episode of Outer Limits or Black Mirror? No fucking lore or external world building there. They built the world they needed inside of each episode. I'm sure you thought they were both garbage so don't bother even saying it but once again, people watched. The claim you made is that people wouldn't watch it unless it was part of the Star Wars IP.
Wait. Oh shit is Black Mirror part of Star Wars? Holy shit that makes so much sense now; THAT must be the only reason people watched it.
So let me get this straight. In araysayer world, Hercules has no lore to back it up?
Gotcha.
Loser Araysar
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I dont know where to even start.
Why would you compare Outer Limits or Black Mirror to serialized story telling when the entire premise of those 2 shows is standalone story telling? Do they have same characters from one episode to the next? Dumb.
Why does it matter if anyone is watching? We're not debating the quantity of viewers. Dumb.
What are you even rambling about when it comes to lore or world building? People watch Witcher and Mandalorian because they already enjoy the existing IP and want more.
Imagine a show like Mandalorian coming out if there was no pre-existing IP. People would laugh at the threadbare monster of the week plots, the shitty green alien and the barely functioning series plot arc. Instead they gloss over all that and spend 90% of all time discussing how it relates to the rest of the IP and Extended Universe, whether Luke is going to be on Tython, whether Grogu is related to Yoda, whether blah blah blah. Most people would not enjoy the Mandalorian if they never saw any of the movies, cartoons, or had any familiarity with the Star Wars IP.
Stop getting angry at me and realize you're enjoying a show that by any other metric would be considered crap and that still plods on almost exclusively because of cheap nostalgia.
Phazael
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He is Russian. His folkore is a queen getting crushed while fucking a horse, an old bitch who lived in a grass hut propped up on one chicken leg, and winter winning all their wars for them. Edge lording is all he has. Sometimes its great, sometimes not, but like everyone else you take the good with the bad.
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Xevy
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I mean, as painful as it is to say this, he's not wrong. The reason so much of this show is enjoyable is because of all the other SW universe tie-ins. That said, as a show on its own I don't think it's garbage, but it wouldn't obviously float this popularity. I could see it succeeding though especially the second some one saw Grogu levitate the Mudhorn and be like "OH WHAT?" Remember how awful Heros was and normies ATE THAT SHIT UP. That in a Sci Fi setting with aliens and spaceships and shit? It'd definitely do well.
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Chukzombi
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Heroes season 1 was pretty fucking cool. it all went downhill from there. but you could make season 1 into a hell of a standalone movie.
Hoss
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To prove to you that you don't need a heavy dose of pre-existing lore to build a good world. Because that's what you claimed.
Oh really?
That's exactly what we're talking about.
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Loser Araysar
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To prove to you that you don't need a heavy dose of pre-existing lore to build a good world. Because that's what you claimed.
Oh really?
That's exactly what we're talking about.
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lol, did you really take a throw away figure of speech and built your entire argument around it?
is this what this is all about?
i'd be really embarrassed if I were you right now
Hoss
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But he is wrong because that's not what he said. He said no one would watch it if it didn't have the star wars name. He didn't say that being part of star wars just made it better, that no one would watch it otherwise.
I do think it would be this popular because mandalorians were immediately popular even when they had very little to do with the main Star Wars story line. Many of the early successful books in the EU were about bounty hunters and usually had nothing to do with jedi. The mandalorian isn't much different from many other popular series of the past. The Fugitive. Incredible Hulk. Kung Fu. The A team. I could go on. It's a type of story that people like to see and mandalorian is doing a superb job with it.
Hoss
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You mean the line I quoted in my initial response. I'm not sure how you're confused. Oh wait you're a liar you weren't confused at all. You were just flailing around trying to find a way to win.
Nice cop out seeing as how literally everything you say is a throw away line.