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I had a laugh at this.


Republican Lawmakers in Maryland Push Bill to Pull the Plug on NSA HQ
Lights Out for NSA? Maryland Lawmakers Push to Cut Water, Electricity to Spy Agency Headquarters - US News

The National Security Agency's headquarters in Ft. Meade, Md., will go dark if a cohort of Maryland lawmakers has its way.

Eight Republicans in the 141-member Maryland House of Delegates introduced legislation Thursday that would deny the electronic spy agency "material support, participation or assistance in any form" from the state, its political subdivisions or companies with state contracts.

The bill would deprive NSA facilities water and electricity carried over public utilities, ban the use of NSA-derived evidence in state courts and prevent state universities from partnering with the NSA on research.
 

Malakriss

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So Australia gathers intelligence on Indonesia. The utter shock and horror. Indonesia works with a US law firm. OMG Americans being spied upon! They got attorney-client privileged information. Whose protections don't extend to intelligence gathering even in our country. Feign not to know who "intelligence customers" are. Go on later to spell out Department of Agriculture. Thus "NSA Evil! Running Amuck!"

Bad article is bad.
 

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Or it is an intelligence partnership that goes back to WW2 and you don't really have the context to understand what that means.
sharing of intelligence gathered between all agencies in those countries? the chicago based law firm communications with indonesia

Spying by N.S.A. Ally Entangled U.S. Law Firm

Other documents obtained from Mr. Snowden reveal that the N.S.A. shares reports from its surveillance widely among civilian agencies. A 2004 N.S.A. document, for example, describes how the agency's intelligence gathering was critical to the Agriculture Department in international trade negotiations.

"The U.S.D.A. is involved in trade operations to protect and secure a large segment of the U.S. economy," that document states. Top agency officials "often rely on SIGINT" - short for the signals intelligence that the N.S.A. eavesdropping collects - "to support their negotiations."
In a statement, Ms. Vines, the agency spokeswoman, said: "N.S.A. works with a number of partners in meeting its foreign-intelligence mission goals, and those operations comply with U.S. law and with the applicable laws under which those partners operate. A key part of the protections that apply to both U.S. persons and citizens of other countries is the mandate that information be in support of a valid foreign-intelligence requirement, and comply with U.S. attorney general-approved procedures to protect privacy rights."

The documents show that the N.S.A. and the Australians jointly run a large signals intelligence facility in Alice Springs, Australia, with half the personnel from the American agency. The N.S.A. and its Australian counterpart have also cooperated on efforts to defeat encryption. A 2003 memo describes how N.S.A. personnel sought to "mentor" the Australians while they tried to break the encryption used by the armed forces of nearby Papua New Guinea.
This is clearly not ALL about terrorism, and a mission creep of mass surveillance is economic spying

NSA spied on U.S. lawyers sometimes getting other countries to help | Mail Online
The 2013 N.S.A. bulletin did not identify which trade case was being monitored by Australian intelligence, but Indonesia has been embroiled in several disputes with the United States in recent years. One involves clove cigarettes, an Indonesian export. The Indonesian government has protested to the World Trade Organization a United States ban on their sale, arguing that similar menthol cigarettes have not been subject to the same restrictions under American antismoking laws. The trade organization, ruling that the United States prohibition violated international trade laws, referred the case to arbitration to determine potential remedies for Indonesia.

Another dispute involved Indonesia's exports of shrimp, which the United States claimed were being sold at below-market prices.

The Indonesian government retained Mayer Brown to help in the cases concerning cigarettes and shrimp, said Ni Made Ayu Marthini, attach? for trade and industry at the Indonesian Embassy in Washington. She said no American law firm had been formally retained yet to help in a third case, involving horticultural and animal products.

Mr. Layton, a lawyer in the Washington office of Mayer Brown, said that since 2010 he had led a team from the firm in the clove cigarette dispute. He said Matthew McConkey, another lawyer in the firm's Washington office, had taken the lead on the shrimp issue until the United States dropped its claims in August. Both cases were underway a year ago when the Australians reported that their surveillance included an American law firm.
Economic Espionage

Even though the Indonesian issues were relatively modest for the United States - about $40 million in annual trade is related to the clove cigarette dispute and $1 billion annually to shrimp - the Australian surveillance of talks underscores the extent to which the N.S.A. and its close partners engage in economic espionage.

In justifying the agency's sweeping powers, the Obama administration often emphasizes the N.S.A.'s role in fighting terrorism and cyberattacks, but disclosures in recent months from the documents leaked by Mr. Snowden show the agency routinely spies on trade negotiations, communications of economic officials in other countries and even foreign corporations.

American intelligence officials do not deny that they collect economic information from overseas, but argue that they do not engage in industrial espionage by sharing that information with American businesses. China, for example, is often accused of stealing business secrets from Western corporations and passing them to Chinese corporations.

The N.S.A. trade document - headlined "SUSLOC (Special US Liaison Office Canberra) Facilitates Sensitive DSD Reporting on Trade Talks"- does not say which "interested US customers" besides the N.S.A. might have received intelligence on the trade dispute.

Other documents obtained from Mr. Snowden reveal that the N.S.A. shares reports from its surveillance widely among civilian agencies. A 2004 N.S.A. document, for example, describes how the agency's intelligence gathering was critical to the Agriculture Department in international trade negotiations.
 

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New giant database will store private details of EVERY person in 'Big Brother' Britain | Mail Online

it's gonna start with health records and obamacare most likely.

How Obamacare's 'privacy nightmare' database really works - Jul. 23, 2013

They'll just start increasing the things stored and their relations, your twitter and face book will be stored along with your IRS, health and phone records, so they could get that and be a couple clicks away from tracking you real time or just turn the mic and camera on depending on the level of access to your file, look at your cloud backups, whatever they feel like they can get away with. it's just gonna eventually merge into a gigantic federal file for everyone and whenever they get any info on you they'll just keep it on your file.

it might not be one singular database but a web of them however the effect would be the same, a couple clicks and there will be a file for everyone that covers your footprint of existence.
I can see the economic system eventually being tied in with the spy grid on a centralized database. Everyone will have to get an RFID chip for national security and all commerce will be done through your chip. Your salary put into it, the gov will take taxes out of it, you'll use it to buy at stores. There will be no cash, all your money will be in your chip that links back to a database that has all your personal information and communications. Don't like who you are? They can just turn your chip off.
 

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NSA reform options leak as Obama weighs phone tracking - SlashGear

One option, the insiders say, would be to rely on phone companies themselves - such as AT&T and Verizon - keep hold of the collected data themselves, rather than pass it in its raw form to the NSA. Security services would then request searches of call records considering specific phone numbers, eventually working with only the most contentious or suspicious data, rather than keeping hold of every piece of it.

However, while believed to be technically viable, and popular with some politicians, the strategy is said to be unpopular with the operators themselves, fearful of what legal responsibilities they'd hold.


Another scheme could see the FBI taken on the role of holding the raw data, or another government agency. Suggestions that the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court could be the right party met with push-back from the judges themselves, though, who are said to be loath to expand the court's duties.

The third possibility is a completely external company to be responsible for the raw data. Although that was one suggestion in Obama's speech, privacy advocates have complained that it would simply shift the intrusive data collection problem elsewhere, not address it.

Obama also mentioned the potential for no longer using phone surveillance of this type, though pointed out that the implications of that were not fully understood.
 

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You really have to wonder just what the fuck is there reasoning really is considering there is no danger from not monitoring everyones calls and the rest of this 1984 bullshit they are doing. Are they scared of laying off 10,000 government employees and scrapping billion dollar programs?
 

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On one hand yeah, they spent billions on offensive capabilities on the internet they aren't going to just toss it.
 

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The only thing less efficient than the government is the government trying to work with other parts of the government. No one wants to be the records hall and be responsible for the data so they're going to leave it as is so the public backlash is localized to the same place.
 

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How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It's time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.
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Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics:(1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.To see how extremist these programs are, just consider the tactics they boast of using to achieve those ends: "false flag operations" (posting material to the internet and falsely attributing it to someone else), fake victim blog posts (pretending to be a victim of the individual whose reputation they want to destroy), and posting "negative information" on various forums. Here is one illustrative list of tactics from the latest GCHQ document we're publishing today:
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these GCHQ documents are the first to prove that a major western government is using some of the most controversial techniques to disseminate deception online and harm the reputations of targets. Under the tactics they use, the state is deliberately spreading lies on the internet about whichever individuals it targets, including the use of what GCHQ itself calls "false flag operations" and emails to people's families and friends. Who would possibly trust a government to exercise these powers at all, let alone do so in secret, with virtually no oversight, and outside of any cognizable legal framework?

Then there is the use of psychology and other social sciences to not only understand, but shape and control, how online activism and discourse unfolds. Today's newly published document touts the work of GCHQ's "Human Science Operations Cell," devoted to "online human intelligence" and "strategic influence and disruption":
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Yahoo webcam images from millions of users intercepted by GCHQ | World news | theguardian.com

Britain's surveillance agency GCHQ, with aid from the US National Security Agency, intercepted and stored the webcam images of millions of internet users not suspected of wrongdoing, secret documents reveal.

GCHQ files dating between 2008 and 2010 explicitly state that a surveillance program codenamed Optic Nerve collected still images of Yahoo webcam chats in bulk and saved them to agency databases, regardless of whether individual users were an intelligence target or not.
 

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Internet privacy is dead. It's had a stake driven through it's heart and it's head cut off with it and the body burned in separate fires.

I fuckin' hate it, but it's reality. As time passes and this starts feeling like more and more like the new normal, the threshold for the level of shit our security agencies will engage in before conscientious individuals on the inside leak what's going on will just keep getting higher and higher. This ship is sailing under it's own head of steam now. It's gonna take a truly broad outcry and a unified effort by both parties (which will never happen) to dismantle the fuckin' monster they've created, and when it comes right down to it, neither of them particularly want to.
 

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Since I started to use internet 15~ years ago I always considered anybody could potentially access my online shit, 15 years ago I was more thinking about any hacker, today it's any governement. It has good and bad sides but I always considered it the "beauty" of internet, because it work both ways.