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Chanur · Feb 10, 2014

fanaskin_sl said:
No, it is a fact that large majorities of that money is purely military spending like bases. If you are calling military spending "socialism" that's a little more than misleading.

https://www.pbs.org/now/politics/defensemap.html#pa
alabama gets >4.5 trillion in defense spending vs rhode island 360 million

Mmmhmm.

Merlin_sl · Feb 10, 2014

fanaskin_sl said:
No, it is a fact that large majorities of that money is purely military spending like bases. If you are calling military spending "socialism" that's a little more than misleading.

https://www.pbs.org/now/politics/defensemap.html#pa
alabama gets >4.5 trillion in defense spending vs rhode island 360 million

I'm not sure if it matters to the conversation, but Alabama and Mississippi also employ a huge labor force who builds military ships such as destroyers etc.... My best friend works for Austal (Ohh yea, even though I'm a huge racist he is black) and another huge employer is Ingalls. Millions of dollars a year go to these two companies.

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Huntington Ingalls Industries: Designer and builder of nuclear- and non-nuclear ships for the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard.

Eomer · Feb 10, 2014

Sebudai_sl said:
Conservatives claim the nordic model can't work in larger countries for some arbitrary, non-specified reason, then they tell us the burden of proof is on us to prove otherwise? Is that what happened here?

That's exactly what happened, yes. Up above, we have Merlin pretending that he didn't see my direct question.

Sebudai · Feb 10, 2014

He managed to tack on a false equivalency between Marxism and Nordic Social Democracy too.

God fucking damnit it is impossible to talk about these things when people don't understand the meanings of these words and just decide to use them interchangeably, as though they're all synonyms for each other. I point to the success of the Nordic model,"oh yeah?! Well if it's so great, how come Marxism warblegarble!1!"

Fuck shit ass balls.

Sebudai · Feb 10, 2014

Merlin_sl said:
Marx died what....over a hundred years ago? If he was such a genius please show me evidence of his theorys that worked. Lets just see the proof. So this nordic model is the standard? Really? Based on what? Yes, we want to see proof and evidence. That's not to much to ask considering you are telling us to change an entire financial model for a country of 300 million people because "were doing it wrong".

Define your metrics for success, then go fucking look up the per-country stats. It takes 5 minutes. Guess what? The Nordic countries are going to be at the top or near the top for nearly every single metric. I've linked these stats a million times already.

TheBeagle · Feb 10, 2014

Don't even bother. This dumb motherfucker has been shown, dozens of times, using dozens of examples and metrics and every fucking time he conveniently ignores it, and comes back three weeks later and does this same retarded dance and every time someone falls for it and wastes their time responding to this willfully ignorant dipshit.

Araysar · Feb 10, 2014

Merlin_sl said:
I'm not sure if it matters to the conversation, but Alabama and Mississippi also employ a huge labor force who builds military ships such as destroyers etc.... My best friend works for Austal (Ohh yea, even though I'm a huge racist he is black) and another huge employer is Ingalls. Millions of dollars a year go to these two companies.

Austal Careers
Huntington Ingalls Industries: Designer and builder of nuclear- and non-nuclear ships for the U.S. Navy and Coast Guard.

Oh my, a vibrant destroyer industry. That will go great with our Sopwith Camel and Zeppelin air force

Araysar · Feb 10, 2014

You guys do know that I created this thread originally to expose how stupid conservatives are? Looks like it served its original purpose admirably

tad10 · Feb 10, 2014

Denaut_sl said:
I actually think it could be done even more efficiently. Most of the of the major things Nordic countries do get more efficient at large scales (like health care & taxpayer funded higher education).

Taxpayer funded education does not get more efficient. Good professors are not a fungible commodity, knowledge can not be served up like so many McDonalds hamburgers. Jesus tap dancing Christ.

TheBeagle · Feb 10, 2014

If you think having 19,000 different standards of education for 19,000 different communities is somehow more efficient than nationalizing education then you should be kept away from all sharp objects.

tad10 · Feb 10, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
You guys do know that I created this thread originally to expose how stupid conservatives are? Looks like it served its original purpose admirably

Keep that echo chamber warm and comfortable. Wouldn't want reality to ever change you buddy.

Araysar · Feb 10, 2014

tad10_sl said:
Taxpayer funded education does not get more efficient. Good professors are not a fungible commodity, knowledge can not be served up like so many McDonalds hamburgers. Jesus tap dancing Christ.

Education systems of Nordic countries consistently rank higher than that of US.

Sebudai · Feb 10, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
Education systems of Nordic countries consistently rank higher than that of US.

But it's only because they're smaller. Smaller countries have better education systems (for some reason nobody seems to be able to specify).

Agraza · Feb 10, 2014

No brown people. That's the secret.

Araysar · Feb 10, 2014

So is the conservative solution to break up into 60+ fiefdoms with 5 million people a piece or just continue lagging farther and farther behind "soshualist" countries?

What fantastic new educational solutions do conservatives have to offer other than prayer in school and creationism?

tad10 · Feb 10, 2014

TheBeagle_sl said:
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What the fuck are you talking about? No one in this thread stated that.

Also, there's only one socialist in this thread and it ain't me. Your attempt to construct a straw man to defeat with your mighty conservetard talking points is pathetic and shows how dumb you really are. It might fool other dumb dumbs, but it's not going to get past anyone with an IQ higher than their body temperature.

Given that you're now just rolling insults, I'm going to go with you lose buddy.

Par for the socialist course.

tad10 · Feb 10, 2014

Araysar_sl said:
Education systems of Nordic countries consistently rank higher than that of US.

Lol. Tell it to a wall at Caltech. Now urban public middle and high schools? It's liberals that fucked those up.

Sebudai · Feb 10, 2014

Finland has arguably the best education system in the world, and its size has very little--if anything--to do with it.

Araysar · Feb 10, 2014

Oh sure, liberals "fucked up" the middle and high schools.

How States Compare in the 2013 Best High Schools Rankings - US News

Bottom half of the country is pretty much all red states. Damn those liberals!!

Burnem Wizfyre · Feb 10, 2014

So we can't have single payer because scale and a good educational system due to scale, seems the only thing that scales well according to republicans is military.

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