The Official Guitar Thread

Alex · May 23, 2020

jooka said:
Something like 1 or 2 tube screamers, wah of choice, and something like a fender deluxe or a vibroverb reissue would be a good start. That's pretty much SRV's setup.

This is exactly what I was getting ready to type up. Fender Twin/Deluxe, compressor for the percussive twang, and a tube screamer.

Noodleface · May 23, 2020

I have a Gibson and they're incredibly overpriced. In an era where you can get one or two custom guitars from any company ox your choice, they have no business charging that much

pharmakos · May 23, 2020

Alex said:
If your loop is too loud and then you play on top of that at a louder volume you're adding more breakup which will make it sound more muddy. Could be an EQ adjustment but I would look into lowering your volume/gain across the board first.

Hm did you look at my diagram? Because you seem to be imagining something else. I've got my signal split to two different amps, running simultaneously, one with distortion, and the other clean with the delay and the compressor. The delay isn't always on, but when it is its generally set to pretty long delay times floating somewhere between use as post-rock wall of sound stuff to attempts to recreate late-era Crimson gamelan guitar passages by cranking the time and playing so the first echo is on one of the later "up" beats in the measure, often drifting between those two in the same song... The distortion isn't always on, but when it is its set so that it's about the same volume as the clean amp. Sometimes I stack a couple guitar lines like this on top of each other even. The volume knobs on everything are set such that with the distortion pedal off, the dry guitar signal is too quiet to be heard on that amp, allowing the distortion foot pedal to turn off that whole side of the chain (since I don't own an A/B/Y pedal). There is literally always some clean signal going tho, so nothing is excessively breaking up due to overload like you're imagining. This all turned out okay before the looper, and everything I described above is working fine for me so far with the looper. Literally the only time I'm having an issue with the setup is when I'm attempting to use that same setup to play a distorted solo over top of a distorted loop, and even then typically just if it's two rhythms overdubbed onto the loop track.

yeah, right now I can lean over and turn some knobs, but would be way cooler to have a pedal I could kick instead

thanks tho

pharmakos · May 23, 2020

Forgot to note in my diagram that I'm putting my signal out to a pair of bass amps, since I'm poor and sold my Spider II a decade ago... Tuning down to C#/Drop B, tho, the bass amp is kind of fun.

pharmakos · May 23, 2020

Springbok said:
NGD x2 (I've been playing more guitar the past two months than I've played in the past 2 years, so thought I'd splurge a little)~

Breedlove finally got finished at luthier (had him make a few minor adjustments, the daddario strings it comes with are pretty meh, adjusted the action slightly etc). The guitar absolutely booms. Amazing the richness of sound and clarity coming out of the myrtlewood. Also pretty happy as I managed to get one of the last "suede burst" colored guitars Breedlove makes (only made like 25 of them). Great acoustic and a massive step up from my old Ibanez/Taylor 1 series I was strumming before.

Also, I bought my first electric (technically I bought two but am returning one). My LGS guy is a guild dealer and let me "borrow" one of his new Guild Starfire V's to take home and test drive the past two weeks. Great guitar and really fun to play, and retails like $1100 so not terribly expensive. It's MiKorea, but the finish and fit are excellent for an East Asian guitar (dealer also deals Gretsch guitars, and this is a step up in finish and presentation from the MiChina Gretschs and a bit below the MiJapan Gretschs I looked at). Paintwork is excellent as well and it's a really neat instrument. Cool sound too. Problem was, it just felt kind of awkward playing due to the size/shape. Went back in today to grab my acoustic and returned the Starfire and walked out with a Les Paul Studio - the body shape felt excellent both in holding and in play (sitting and standing) and was able to get some very nice sounds out of the thing - build quality and materials are really well done as well. It was slightly more than the Guild, but he cut me a few hundred off to meet in the middle. Only gripe (so far) is they cheaped out and it only comes in a (albeit very nice) gig bag/soft bag. The Guild, at $500 cheaper came with a superb hard case.

That said, for a Southern Rock, bluesy sort of sound anyone have any recommended pedals, etc? I'm going to run through my old orange amp but open to reasonable amp suggestions as well.

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Wow dude that suede burst is amazing

Springbok · May 23, 2020

Noodleface said:
I have a Gibson and they're incredibly overpriced. In an era where you can get one or two custom guitars from any company ox your choice, they have no business charging that much

Seems well built to my eye, but I do have two issues with it after playing pretty much all day.

I don’t love the neck.. in fact I think I might actively dislike it. Something about it just doesn’t feel wonderful in my hand, and the chunkier feel doesn’t grab me after playing the starfire.

I also miss a little something from the semi hollow body guild in the sound dept

To any/all electric bros, looks like PRS makes a nice solid guitar? Anybody have experience with the PRS CE 24 semi hollow? Looks nice but don’t see anywhere near here with any in stock. May order from Sweetwater for grins and do apples to apples test

Alex · May 24, 2020

I dislike Gibson necks. Big and bulky. Mentioned this here earlier. I much prefer thin necks.

My friend has a PRS CE and I dig it. Definitely a well built guitar.

Noodleface · May 24, 2020

Yeah I can't play chunky necks anymore. I'm a huge Ibanez fanboy.. so that should say it all.

Though my kiesel.neck is the most comfortable I've played. Also the caparison I had, had a killer neck.

yaph · May 24, 2020

I’d try running your pedals after the looper with your delay in the amps FX loop if possible. That way you can fine tune everything while running the loop.

You may also be cutting the signal running out of your guitar in half running that Y-cable. If you have a pedal that has a separate output for wet and dry signals you could run that instead.

Springbok · May 24, 2020

jooka said:
Something like 1 or 2 tube screamers, wah of choice, and something like a fender deluxe or a vibroverb reissue would be a good start. That's pretty much SRV's setup. Keep in mind he cranked the amp as hard as he could.

something like these plus wah?

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Then to find new amp at some point

jooka · May 24, 2020

The tube screamer for sure. I'm not familiar enough with the Blues Driver to say. Another to consider is a Strymon Sunset if your budget would allow for it. I haven't bought it yet but it is pretty high on my list of future purchases. JHS Bonsai is another good one but again costs more.

Noodleface · May 24, 2020

Check out reverb instead of Amazon. I prefer used gear myself, especially on pedals

Springbok · May 24, 2020

jooka said:
The tube screamer for sure. I'm not familiar enough with the Blues Driver to say. Another to consider is a Strymon Sunset if your budget would allow for it. I haven't bought it yet but it is pretty high on my list of future purchases. JHS Bonsai is another good one but again costs more.

Bought the Bonsai and a chorus pedal - cool it has all of those tube sounds in one unit. Will tool around with it when it arrives

pharmakos · May 24, 2020

Alex said:
I dislike Gibson necks. Big and bulky. Mentioned this here earlier. I much prefer thin necks.

My friend has a PRS CE and I dig it. Definitely a well built guitar.

I like the necks on Les Paul Studios, slimmer than the standard, he might have done good

pharmakos · May 24, 2020

yaph said:
I’d try running your pedals after the looper with your delay in the amps FX loop if possible. That way you can fine tune everything while running the loop.

You may also be cutting the signal running out of your guitar in half running that Y-cable. If you have a pedal that has a separate output for wet and dry signals you could run that instead.

Nah I am clicking effects on and off for individual elements on the same loop, need to have them before the looper.

I definitely need a better solution than just the Y cable, one of my next purchases is going to be an A/B/Y box, I'm just pretty broke. Been on disability for four and a half years (still fighting cancer) and probably shouldn't be spending money on musical gear anyway but fuck it life is short

I had to stifle a laugh when the Sweetwater rep told me I was approved for 3 months but not 6. (My app was borderline and the computer flagged it for a third party human to approve it) Might have just been standard operating procedure, might have been hedging their bets on how long I was going to live

. I've got years even if it is what take me, but still, I've gotta wonder what people think sometimes heh.

Springbok · May 25, 2020

Going to mess with analog pedals/amp this week but also just snagged this to run through my frfr/headphones to compare. Looks like a neat little gizmo

Alex · May 25, 2020

I just bought a Line 6 Helix last week and I'm loving it. Line 6 has come a long way since the Flextone II. That's the last thing of theirs I owned. The models are pretty spot on. I've been modeling all sorts of my favorites' rigs based on their interviews and rundowns and I'm impressed how close I am to the tones.

Springbok · May 25, 2020

You running it through front of amp or through a dedicated powered speaker? My intention was to run through a cheap frfr like the Headrush and nice headphones and if I like it maybe upgrading the speaker at some point - read the Line 6 amp'd speakers are really good for the $.

For $450 delivered, seemed like a pretty cheap way to get some sounds/amp/cabs/effects.

Alex · May 25, 2020

I'm running it straight into my Orange TH30. Have my Orange set to be as dry as possible so the Helix is doing all the work.

I've also been using headphones here and there, but I have a pretty bad headphone setup that needs drastic improvement.

Kovaks · May 26, 2020

After getting turned down by almost everyone in reverb for super low-balling then I finally got a decent offer on an Eastman md305, I reached out to b a local shop and they agreed to price match so getting about 15% off which would be great if it wasn't for CA commie taxes. Get to pick it up tomorrow, can't wait to suck at Mandolin.

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