The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

Chukzombi · Apr 27, 2020

MusicForFish said:
In my current opinion UFOs are both
1: our tech (nimitz and other certified gov encounters), (black projects, etc) for some sightings.
2: with the data coming out of the skinwalker ranch investigation(more on that shit later), probably some newly measurable holes in our magnetic field causing all sorts of cool looking atmospheric phenomena, messing with our electronics, and our physical bodies(maybe brains) with Gamma Ray's and shit.

/shrug
One day we will figure it out and much data will be publicly presented.

Keep doing your civs thing. They had some stuff figured out that we don't and it's always fascinating to ponder what kind of science can be gleaned.

I mean, if we can get complex mathematics inscribed on sumerian artifacts going back to the flood....logic dictates a deeper understanding than what they could inscribe, right? New discoveries every day and all that.

i would just like to know how many iterations of advanced civilzations there were in our history as a human race. The Neanderthals seemed like the big dogs til we showed up. they had much more strength and larger brain capacity than modern homo sapiens. were they the ones who built all the truly megalithic stuff? they went extinct around the same time as every other megafauna on this planet did. about 12-13000 years ago. we are basically the leftovers of that cataclysm. i also wonder about the other cataclysms that humans survived in the last hundred thousand years and who were the big dogs back then? what did those far ancient humans build that still might be waiting under the ground if we ever dug deep enough to find it?

more of this stuff?

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MusicForFish · Apr 27, 2020

Chris said:
When is next skinwalker out? Seems like they started getting somewhere once they stopped destroying the cistern and instead sent rockets up.

Big question is if they will move their cell phones away from the equipment!

That is one major question I have with their data and setup.
Are they taking into account all of their wireless gear? All their cams on the property are wireless, as are their mics, phones, etc. All IoT devices.
I just want to look over the data.
Then I really need them to bring in another team to reproduce the findings if that's possible.
Like select students in uni (the current generation is open to discovery instead of the status quo. Side benefit of showing American scientific education superiority!) and let them do it over the summer for their practicals or something.

The next episode is due out on the 5th. They have 4 more at least.
I haven't looked further into it, but most of the cast were open for AMA's and a few of them are on podcasts around the country.

I really dislike how the produced this series. And the obvious reality TV hooks/tropes.
The experiments they are doing are okay, but you would figure that if the owner is serious, that he would have a larger budget.
As annoying as the show is and their little huddles in the command center... I am still looking forward to the rest of the show.
At the least, it is a great way to show how NOT to approach the subject of the ranch and its science in media.

Araysar · Apr 27, 2020

im guessing skinwalker ranch is some kind of new UFO show?

whats the craziest thing you've seen on it so far?

MusicForFish · Apr 27, 2020

Araysar said:
im guessing skinwalker ranch is some kind of new UFO show?

whats the craziest thing you've seen on it so far?

Just 2 ufo sightings (possibly some form of ball lightning), the light beams coming from the ground (this is weird but has to have an explanation. Seemingly randomly triggered but directed energy bursts from the ground, it's cool shit), the energy display above the ridge at night (explainable but needs verification but amazing to see in HD), and the fuckin dumbass redneck security guard that should be fired.

Araysar · Apr 27, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Just 2 ufo sightings (possibly some form of ball lightning), the light beams coming from the ground (this is weird but has to have an explanation. Seemingly randomly triggered but directed energy bursts from the ground, it's cool shit), the energy display above the ridge at night (explainable but needs verification but amazing to see in HD), and the fuckin dumbass redneck security guard that should be fired.

The Utah ranch, located in west Uintah County bordering the Ute Indian Reservation, was popularly dubbed the UFO ranch due to its ostensible 50-year history of odd events said to have taken place there.

So weird. I wonder if there has been anything else happening in Utah/Nevada and other American West states in the last 50 years....

i guess we'll never know

MusicForFish · Apr 27, 2020

Araysar said:
The Utah ranch, located in west Uintah County bordering the Ute Indian Reservation, was popularly dubbed the UFO ranch due to its ostensible 50-year history of odd events said to have taken place there.

So weird. I wonder if there has been anything else happening in Utah/Nevada and other American West states in the last 50 years....

i guess we'll never know

Jeepers.
The basin and it's weirdness goes back over 900 years in the stories from the Uintah tribe and other tribes in the area.
Even in the old drawn maps of territories of the natives in that area, that patch of land was always left alone, cursed as they say.

I find it stupid that they focus on the ranch when it is the whole basin experiencing this stuff.
The whole "don't dig" thing isn't just a ranch exclusive, but the whole area.

The silicate and crystal formations along with a water basin really are a tell tale sign of something interesting happening. They really should just dig the ranch up and see if their conclusions are correct in the show.

MusicForFish · Apr 28, 2020

Interesting. I wasn't expecting them to officially release the vids themselves.

Documents | NAVAIR - FOIA

www.navair.navy.mil

More TTSA articles dropping obviously. I like FOIA papers. They are saying that the analysis of the exotic materials they possess is complete and the results are forthcoming. After they are done negotiating another Military partnership/project. For reference:

To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science Announces CRADA with The U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to Advance Materiel and Technology Innovations

SAN DIEGO — Oct. 17, 2019 — To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) announced today a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to advance TTSA’s materiel and technology innovations in order to develop enhanced capabilities for Army ground vehicles.

TTSA’s technology solutions, which leverage developments in material science, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, beamed energy propulsion, and active camouflage, have the potential to enhance survivability and effectiveness of multiple Army systems. TTSA will share its discoveries with Ground Vehicle System Center (GVSC) and Ground Vehicle Survivability and Protection (GVSP) and the U.S. Army shall provide laboratories, expertise, support, and resources to help characterize the technologies and its applications.

“Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities,” said Dr. Joseph Cannon of U.S. Army Futures Command. “At the Army's Ground Vehicle Systems Center, we look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.”

Steve Justice, TTSA’s COO and Aerospace Division Director added that “This cooperative research agreement brings additional, critically important expertise that is necessary to advance the state-of-the-art in both our near and long-term technology areas of study. While the Army has specific military performance interests in the research, much of the work is expected to have dual-use applications in support of TTSA’s path to commercialization and public benefit mission.”

Good points.

To be fair, point A is wrong on his part. The whole fleet saw it on their systems. Had the tapes/cell phones apprehended right away.

Chukzombi · Apr 28, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Interesting. I wasn't expecting them to officially release the vids themselves.

Documents | NAVAIR - FOIA

www.navair.navy.mil

More TTSA articles dropping obviously. I like FOIA papers. They are saying that the analysis of the exotic materials they possess is complete and the results are forthcoming. After they are done negotiating another Military partnership/project. For reference:

To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science Announces CRADA with The U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to Advance Materiel and Technology Innovations

SAN DIEGO — Oct. 17, 2019 — To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) announced today a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to advance TTSA’s materiel and technology innovations in order to develop enhanced capabilities for Army ground vehicles.

TTSA’s technology solutions, which leverage developments in material science, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, beamed energy propulsion, and active camouflage, have the potential to enhance survivability and effectiveness of multiple Army systems. TTSA will share its discoveries with Ground Vehicle System Center (GVSC) and Ground Vehicle Survivability and Protection (GVSP) and the U.S. Army shall provide laboratories, expertise, support, and resources to help characterize the technologies and its applications.

“Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities,” said Dr. Joseph Cannon of U.S. Army Futures Command. “At the Army's Ground Vehicle Systems Center, we look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.”

Steve Justice, TTSA’s COO and Aerospace Division Director added that “This cooperative research agreement brings additional, critically important expertise that is necessary to advance the state-of-the-art in both our near and long-term technology areas of study. While the Army has specific military performance interests in the research, much of the work is expected to have dual-use applications in support of TTSA’s path to commercialization and public benefit mission.”

Good points.

i have to agree with that Pope guy even if he is a dickhead. you really cant tell wtf that is in those videos. it doesnt seem to be moving in a logical direction. if its an ET, those guys must really hate their ship. bitch go left. wtf is you dooon?

MusicForFish · Apr 28, 2020

Chukzombi said:
i have to agree with that Pope guy even if he is a dickhead. you really cant tell wtf that is in those videos. it doesnt seem to be moving in a logical direction. if its an ET, those guys must really hate their ship. bitch go left. wtf is you dooon?

Ya, the HD video release would clear it all up asap. Shame it's under lock and key by the other faction. It's bullshit.
It's the 4th and final vid from the encounter. Very HD, over 11 mins long.

Springbok · Apr 28, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Interesting. I wasn't expecting them to officially release the vids themselves.

Documents | NAVAIR - FOIA

www.navair.navy.mil

More TTSA articles dropping obviously. I like FOIA papers. They are saying that the analysis of the exotic materials they possess is complete and the results are forthcoming. After they are done negotiating another Military partnership/project. For reference:

To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science Announces CRADA with The U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to Advance Materiel and Technology Innovations

SAN DIEGO — Oct. 17, 2019 — To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science (TTSA) announced today a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRADA) with the U.S. Army Combat Capabilities Development Command to advance TTSA’s materiel and technology innovations in order to develop enhanced capabilities for Army ground vehicles.

TTSA’s technology solutions, which leverage developments in material science, space-time metric engineering, quantum physics, beamed energy propulsion, and active camouflage, have the potential to enhance survivability and effectiveness of multiple Army systems. TTSA will share its discoveries with Ground Vehicle System Center (GVSC) and Ground Vehicle Survivability and Protection (GVSP) and the U.S. Army shall provide laboratories, expertise, support, and resources to help characterize the technologies and its applications.

“Our partnership with TTSA serves as an exciting, non-traditional source for novel materials and transformational technologies to enhance our military ground system capabilities,” said Dr. Joseph Cannon of U.S. Army Futures Command. “At the Army's Ground Vehicle Systems Center, we look forward to this partnership and the potential technical innovations forthcoming.”

Steve Justice, TTSA’s COO and Aerospace Division Director added that “This cooperative research agreement brings additional, critically important expertise that is necessary to advance the state-of-the-art in both our near and long-term technology areas of study. While the Army has specific military performance interests in the research, much of the work is expected to have dual-use applications in support of TTSA’s path to commercialization and public benefit mission.”

Good points.

To be fair, point A is wrong on his part. The whole fleet saw it on their systems. Had the tapes/cell phones apprehended right away.

Fuck these to the stars government propaganda peddling dickheads.

Et’s obviously exist, are obviously not hostile towards humanity, and our government is slowly drip feeding us information to warm our citizens up to their existence before turning us against them through fear, propaganda and MSM dispatches.

MusicForFish · Apr 28, 2020

Springbok said:
Fuck these to the stars government propaganda peddling dickheads.

Et’s obviously exist, are obviously not hostile towards humanity, and our government is slowly drip feeding us information to warm our citizens up to their existence before turning us against them through fear, propaganda and MSM dispatches.

Niiiice.
I lean the opposite atm.
Average people are literally saying "meh".
However if you look at the religions if the world and what they teach about UFOs and Aliens.
Nearly all of them references them as demons in league with Satan, not to trust them, end of the world, etc.
So if it is ET's, there are big hurdles to stave off the insane masses.

Regardless of all that shit, the Technology at play could lead to some pretty big leaps forward for our technology driven society.

Chukzombi · Apr 28, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Niiiice.
I lean the opposite atm.
Average people are literally saying "meh".
However if you look at the religions if the world and what they teach about UFOs and Aliens.
Nearly all of them references them as demons in league with Satan, not to trust them, end of the world, etc.
So if it is ET's, there are big hurdles to stave off the insane masses.

Regardless of all that shit, the Technology at play could lead to some pretty big leaps forward for our technology driven society.

i dont think so man, just about every religion that talks about celestial beings who come down from the sky, they are often regarded as fair and just gods. the bad gods/demons are the ones who come from under the ground. make sense. the sun, moon and stars provide life and navigation, while the earth can eject fire and shake the world apart. it can also starve a nation. the only time shit from the sky is considered bad mojo is when meteorites start hitting up fools and then the people wonder what they did to anger the gods. not that the gods hate them.

MusicForFish · Apr 28, 2020

Chukzombi said:
i dont think so man, just about every religion that talks about celestial beings who come down from the sky, they are often regarded as fair and just gods. the bad gods/demons are the ones who come from under the ground. make sense. the sun, moon and stars provide life and navigation, while the earth can eject fire and shake the world apart. it can also starve a nation. the only time shit from the sky is considered bad mojo is when meteorites start hitting up fools and then the people wonder what they did to anger the gods. not that the gods hate them.

Right, I must have been thinking of certain sects of Christianity.

Araysar · Apr 28, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Ya, the HD video release would clear it all up asap. Shame it's under lock and key by the other faction. It's bullshit.
It's the 4th and final vid from the encounter. Very HD, over 11 mins long.

I doubt that the sensor pod from an F-18 records FLIR imagery in 1080P

WHere did you hear this from?

Araysar · Apr 28, 2020

Springbok said:
Fuck these to the stars government propaganda peddling dickheads.

Et’s obviously exist, are obviously not hostile towards humanity, and our government is slowly drip feeding us information to warm our citizens up to their existence before turning us against them through fear, propaganda and MSM dispatches.

ET hypothesis falls apart on every level.

1. tech required to travel distances
2. zero proof of discovering anything ET related
3. little sense in hiding for 75 years straight now but still making grandiose displays e.g. Phoenix Lights
4. UFO sightings increase dramatically at same time humans start advancing in flight.
5. UFO sightings increase even more dramatically right after we break the sound barrier
6. vast majority of UFO sightings are over developed nations who have advanced flight tech.

other than being inexplainable, there isnt a single argument for ETs,

but plenty of arguments for it being military testing

Araysar · Apr 28, 2020

MusicForFish said:
Jeepers.
The basin and it's weirdness goes back over 900 years in the stories from the Uintah tribe and other tribes in the area.
Even in the old drawn maps of territories of the natives in that area, that patch of land was always left alone, cursed as they say.

I find it stupid that they focus on the ranch when it is the whole basin experiencing this stuff.
The whole "don't dig" thing isn't just a ranch exclusive, but the whole area.

The silicate and crystal formations along with a water basin really are a tell tale sign of something interesting happening. They really should just dig the ranch up and see if their conclusions are correct in the show.

Yeah but they dont call it Weirdness Ranch, they call it UFO ranch

Utah
50 year history
UFOs.

but no, it has to be some native fairy tales.

ShakyJake · Apr 28, 2020

Araysar said:
ET hypothesis falls apart on every level.

1. tech required to travel distances
2. zero proof of discovering anything ET related
3. little sense in hiding for 75 years straight now but still making grandiose displays e.g. Phoenix Lights
4. UFO sightings increase dramatically at same time humans start advancing in flight.
5. UFO sightings increase even more dramatically right after we break the sound barrier
6. vast majority of UFO sightings are over developed nations who have advanced flight tech.

other than being inexplainable, there isnt a single argument for ETs,

but plenty of arguments for it being military testing

If Bob Lazar isn't lying then all these sightings could simply be us experimenting with the technology.

Chukzombi · Apr 28, 2020

ShakyJake said:
If Bob Lazar isn't lying then all these sightings could simply be us experimenting with the technology.

the only secret tech we have been working on since the 40s was nazi tech and its paid dividends. nazis got us to the moon, made the world much smaller and provided instant communication. ET? not so much.

Chris · Apr 28, 2020

Chukzombi said:
the only secret tech we have been working on since the 40s was nazi tech and its paid dividends. nazis got us to the moon, made the world much smaller and provided instant communication. ET? not so much.

Yeah, it's documented that Nazis were building flying saucers in the Skoda factory in Czechoslovakia.

The tech was public for a year and shows up in some paperwork somewhere (patents?) before it got moved to black ops. Can't remember exactly, been years since I saw that on a documentary.

I would guess that it was never practical for a human pilot due to spinning G forces, but now drone tech is advanced enough to have virtual pilots they are being investigated again.

If Bob Lazar was telling the truth, it's just as likely that it was Nazi tech they were trying to backward engineer, spinning a bullshit story to make leakers look insane.

Could be that unlike the rocket scientists who were taken to the US alive and cooperated, the anti grav scientists were all killed or went to Russia, so they just had a working prototype but not how it was made or operated.

Way more likely than aliens anyway.

ShakyJake · Apr 28, 2020

Chris said:
If Bob Lazar was telling the truth, it's just as likely that it was Nazi tech they were trying to backward engineer, spinning a bullshit story to make leakers look insane.

I'm sure all of us here have watched that Joe Rogan interview. But from what Lazar described the technology is so far advanced it sounded as if we have no fucking clue how to reverse engineer any of it. So I don't think anything productive has come from it. Again, I'm thinking some of these sightings could just be us fucking around with the craft we discovered and that's all we can accomplish at this point. Not that we've actually created these things and are flying them around.

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