The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

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Chris said:
Yeah, it's documented that Nazis were building flying saucers in the Skoda factory in Czechoslovakia.

The tech was public for a year and shows up in some paperwork somewhere (patents?) before it got moved to black ops. Can't remember exactly, been years since I saw that on a documentary.

I would guess that it was never practical for a human pilot due to spinning G forces, but now drone tech is advanced enough to have virtual pilots they are being investigated again.

If Bob Lazar was telling the truth, it's just as likely that it was Nazi tech they were trying to backward engineer, spinning a bullshit story to make leakers look insane.

Could be that unlike the rocket scientists who were taken to the US alive and cooperated, the anti grav scientists were all killed or went to Russia, so they just had a working prototype but not how it was made or operated.

Way more likely than aliens anyway.
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this bad boy.
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it was deemed too impractical because they werent able to power it efficiently and when it was powered, it was uncontrollable.
of course it doesnt mean we gave up on it entirely.
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Fuck these to the stars government propaganda peddling dickheads.

Et’s obviously exist, are obviously not hostile towards humanity, and our government is slowly drip feeding us information to warm our citizens up to their existence before turning us against them through fear, propaganda and MSM dispatches.
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I see others have found this thread! Welcome! I finally have some like-minded people.

If Bob Lazar is telling the truth about anything besides the most basic of information that he could have gleaned from working at or around Area 51 for a brief time, I will suck MFF's dick. We'd have seen his "Element 115" by now if he were serious about his claims. And I'm talking about the stable hunk of it he claims to have hidden, not some disappears in nanoseconds bullshit. Of course I'll get the "but he's afraid of the government" argument for why he's not revealing it, which is also bull, because if it really existed, and he had some of it, "they" would have murdered his ass long ago for even talking about it. There is no alien craft or tech that we are experimenting with.
 
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I Love the old old stuff. i bet humanity has been "civilized" for a much longer time overall than is currently accepted.

looking at the peruvian ruins like machu pichu, a few areas in egypt, iran and those areas, things over in asia etc. especially in peru, there is a DISTINCT difference in styles of construction with the more elegant style- which happens to be essentially fucking earthquake proof at a lower level than the rough construction. how far back? no idea but i bet as more and more stuff is found via lidar and other techniques, conventional theory on how old everything is will change as new information is revealed.

As to what the fuck those handbags are...not a clue. a handheld grain mill is actually a good guess imo.
 
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Lenardo said:
I Love the old old stuff. i bet humanity has been "civilized" for a much longer time overall than is currently accepted.

looking at the peruvian ruins like machu pichu, a few areas in egypt, iran and those areas, things over in asia etc. especially in peru, there is a DISTINCT difference in styles of construction with the more elegant style- which happens to be essentially fucking earthquake proof at a lower level than the rough construction. how far back? no idea but i bet as more and more stuff is found via lidar and other techniques, conventional theory on how old everything is will change as new information is revealed.

As to what the fuck those handbags are...not a clue. a handheld grain mill is actually a good guess imo.
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i think they're water jugs of some kind.
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symbolic for power. whomever controls the water, controls life. he has those water bags because he's the top dog. though the design and use of those bags thats shared in cultures all around he world is what is interesting to me.
 
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Chukzombi said:
i think they're water jugs of some kind.

symbolic for power. whomever controls the water, controls life. he has those water bags because he's the top dog. though the design and use of those bags thats shared in cultures all around he world is what is interesting to me.
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if they were hollow, they would have stated so.

its very obviously a stone weight. to what purpose? thats a lot more complex. crushing grain/nuts seems reasonable. doubtful they needed door stops.. But there could be any number of other reasons they might have needed easily to pick up and move weights. anchors, holding down tarps, traps? found in funerary locations would be a clue. not sure what that indicates though. food prep seems unlikely.
 
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Caliane said:
if they were hollow, they would have stated so.

its very obviously a stone weight. to what purpose? thats a lot more complex. crushing grain/nuts seems reasonable. doubtful they needed door stops.. But there could be any number of other reasons they might have needed easily to pick up and move weights. anchors, holding down tarps, traps? found in funerary locations would be a clue. not sure what that indicates though. food prep seems unlikely.
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no no no, i know they are stone. what i'm saying is those can be symbolic water jugs. not actual water jugs.
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water is power even today. those handbags in my opinion were just a marker to signify those dudes above were the top dogs because they provided the water.
 
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Chukzombi said:
no no no, i know they are stone. what i'm saying is those can be symbolic water jugs. not actual water jugs.
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water is power even today. those handbags in my opinion were just a marker to signify those dudes above were the top dogs because they provided the water.
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Do you think that it may just be that a bag at one point on time was the most amazing invention ever?
 
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Do you think that it may just be that a bag at one point on time was the most amazing invention ever?
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not really, you have fire , copper/bronze tools/weapons to be jazzed about. slapping an animal skin together to make a jug isnt really that impressive in comparison. its the access to that water which will impress the crowd.
 
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Fire pots were more than just a practical item. They were often carried by "big men" or clan leaders/shaman, who were often the same person in early clan social structures. So yes, "the obelisks, stone circles, pyramids and tiered platforms in the ancient world generated a global power grid which enabled these 'fire pots' to operate", if that grid was that small clan influence evolving into an institution of worship through fire rituals and the 'grid' is the real power of people willing to die for what that "fire pot" represents.

Most of pre-history revolves around water and fire and "smart" individuals used this to their advantage to control others. We are biologically the same pieces of shit that we were 10-20-30-100k years ago.

Ancient Astronaut Theorists are just new "smart" people trying to dupe people into believing their "fire pot" is a technologically advanced purse given to our leaders/gods by aliens that allowed them to replace servitude, slavery and generational construction with magic.

But hey, worship whatever pot gets off.
 
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Fire pots were more than just a practical item. They were often carried by "big men" or clan leaders/shaman, who were often the same person in early clan social structures. So yes, "the obelisks, stone circles, pyramids and tiered platforms in the ancient world generated a global power grid which enabled these 'fire pots' to operate", if that grid was that small clan influence evolving into an institution of worship through fire rituals and the 'grid' is the real power of people willing to die for what that "fire pot" represents.

Most of pre-history revolves around water and fire and "smart" individuals used this to their advantage to control others. We are biologically the same pieces of shit that we were 10-20-30-100k years ago.

Ancient Astronaut Theorists are just new "smart" people trying to dupe people into believing their "fire pot" is a technologically advanced purse given to our leaders/gods by aliens that allowed them to replace servitude, slavery and generational construction with magic.

But hey, worship whatever pot gets off.
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Dont listen to Chris, he ius just a skeptic and thinks we are dogwhistling for the spacemen built everything

the fire pot idea is interesting.

there are 3 "handbags" here, so maybe one is for fire, the second is for water and the third could be for seed?
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Chukzombi said:
Dont listen to Chris, he ius just a skeptic and thinks we are dogwhistling for the spacemen built everything

the fire pot idea is interesting.

there are 3 "handbags" here, so maybe one is for fire, the second is for water and the third could be for seed?
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/shrug, I wasn't alive then, but my guess would be that 'containers' and what they represent and in what context they are shown was a valuable message to followers. Constructing what were essentially reminders of those containers and the people who control them was common and continues today. So, yeah, could be seed, water, fire, gold, cash, trade goods, knowledge (banks, stores, libraries, universities - same shit, different era). Never hurts to remind the peasants who has the real power.

Edit: I think too much weight is given to historical bling or dick-swinging. Pretty much everything that has stood the test of time has been built as nothing more than 'we wuz kangs' propaganda.
 
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Chukzombi said:
Dont listen to Chris, he ius just a skeptic and thinks we are dogwhistling for the spacemen built everything

the fire pot idea is interesting.

there are 3 "handbags" here, so maybe one is for fire, the second is for water and the third could be for seed?
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I would be more worried about those beaked aliens.
 
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/shrug, I wasn't alive then, but my guess would be that 'containers' and what they represent and in what context they are shown was a valuable message to followers. Constructing what were essentially reminders of those containers and the people who control them was common and continues today. So, yeah, could be seed, water, fire, gold, cash, trade goods, knowledge (banks, stores, libraries, universities - same shit, different era). Never hurts to remind the peasants who has the real power.

Edit: I think too much weight is given to historical bling or dick-swinging. Pretty much everything that has stood the test of time has been built as nothing more than 'we wuz kangs' propaganda.
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the bling has to start from something. golden sceptres are just fancy maces or staffs that soldiers beat people with. dunno how crowns started (skull of your enemy?), robes could just be of the large animal you killed to show how badass you were. Thrones could just be symbolic of "having the high ground" as in they are the ones in control. "handbags" could just be a more ancient version of those things. they probably also had animal robes and other finery now lost to time.

and Chris Chris i dont know what those bird carvings represent, there are many instances of bird cults around the world. so its possible this was another bird religion.
 
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