The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

Void · Sep 14, 2021

MusicForFish said:
Maybe this will help get around the religious cult that's cockblocking the data from being released.

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Also, an excerpt from Tom Delonge speaking about the few releases that AATIP waa able to procure.
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Sure, they totally saw the video but now they somehow don't have it or can't release it because the Pentagon is pissed, because they would never go against the wishes of the govt and release it anyway! Not to mention, the ultimate conspiracy theorists just trusted that it would be there after they watched it and didn't make a backup or even record it with their phone.

If I had a nickel for every "unquestionable proof" video, document, or element 69 sample that these yahoos claimed to have, but never released, I'd be fucking rich.

Chukzombi · Sep 14, 2021

Chukzombi · Sep 14, 2021

Void said:
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Sure, they totally saw the video but now they somehow don't have it or can't release it because the Pentagon is pissed, because they would never go against the wishes of the govt and release it anyway! Not to mention, the ultimate conspiracy theorists just trusted that it would be there after they watched it and didn't make a backup or even record it with their phone.

If I had a nickel for every "unquestionable proof" video, document, or element 69 sample that these yahoos claimed to have, but never released, I'd be fucking rich.

its just excuses making to keep the grift going.

Tripamang · Sep 16, 2021

Chukzombi said:
its just excuses making to keep the grift going.

At this point what would you need to convince you otherwise?

AATIP was 23 million over 5 years and most of it went to infrastructure instead of personnel. I can't imagine the new program being more than 10 million a year, arguably a rounding error in the defense budget. It doesn't strike me as something big enough to make grifting worthwhile.

Moogalak · Sep 16, 2021

Tripamang said:
At this point what would you need to convince you otherwise?

AATIP was 23 million over 5 years and most of it went to infrastructure instead of personnel. I can't imagine the new program being more than 10 million a year, arguably a rounding error in the defense budget. It doesn't strike me as something big enough to make gifting worthwhile.

Nothing is going to convince the zealots. It's the same thing as all this covid bs. If you aren't virtue signaling with a mask and a perpetual bandaid on your arm, you're a heretic.

If you give ANY credence to UFO/UAP bs, you are a heretic.

MusicForFish · Sep 16, 2021

MusicForFish · Sep 16, 2021

Chukzombi · Sep 16, 2021

Moogalak said:
Nothing is going to convince the zealots. It's the same thing as all this covid bs. If you aren't virtue signaling with a mask and a perpetual bandaid on your arm, you're a heretic.

If you give ANY credence to UFO/UAP bs, you are a heretic.

i'm a simple man. i only ask for one instance. not many. one instance of a UFO in FOCUS in high resolution quality. i dont want to hear shit about thats asking too much. everyone has a 720p to 4k camera in their back pocket. i want to see that clear image so i can say, "wow thats really a UFO." every UFO image is unidentified because the potato filmed it with his or her potato camera so its just a moving blob of light and they mysteriously edit their videos after like 20 seconds. if i saw a UFO i would first grab my camera from my back pocket and then film its entire run until i didnt see it anymore and then a few more minutes because it might come back or maybe there is another one.

Zaara · Sep 16, 2021

Sandstone theatre of carved reliefs in Saudi Arabia newly discovered to be the oldest standing relief carvings in the world. 6000BCE, older than Stonehenge and Pyramids.

Each is life-sized or close to it. Meeting place of some kind for the herders/nomadic people- Saudi Arabia was grassland back then.

Some are less than impressive in terms of 'artistic accomplishment' but it seems to be the work of successive generations/gatherings. The more complete ones are pretty fucking realistic, as they imply 'released' reliefs where the heads were carved in the round. As the older panels eroded or collapsed they were recarved.

Moogalak · Sep 16, 2021

Chukzombi said:
i'm a simple man. i only ask for one instance. not many. one instance of a UFO in FOCUS in high resolution quality. i dont want to hear shit about thats asking too much. everyone has a 720p to 4k camera in their back pocket. i want to see that clear image so i can say, "wow thats really a UFO." every UFO image is unidentified because the potato filmed it with his or her potato camera so its just a moving blob of light and they mysteriously edit their videos after like 20 seconds. if i saw a UFO i would first grab my camera from my back pocket and then film its entire run until i didnt see it anymore and then a few more minutes because it might come back or maybe there is another one.

No, I don't think you would believe it. We have entered a day and age in which digital photography can always be discounted as shopped. You have fully convinced yourself that nothing will change your mind, you just refuse to admit it.

Chukzombi · Sep 16, 2021

Moogalak said:
No, I don't think you would believe it. We have entered a day and age in which digital photography can always be discounted as shopped. You have fully convinced yourself that nothing will change your mind, you just refuse to admit it.

you act like i'm just some cynical asshole. i believed all this stuff 20 years ago. i believed in bigfoot and nessie and space aliens and ghosts and all this other unexplained stuff. i stopped buying into it with the digital age and smartphone cameras they still cant come up with one goddamned verifiable image of anything. they are so low effort, that those carefully crafted hoax images from the 60s and 70s are much more believable than whats being presented today. i only asked for one clear image and you couldnt even do that. its fine to believe in cryptids, life on other planets or the possibility that we are being visited, ancient history has reports of this stuff too. its something. its ok to wonder and talk about it. whats not ok is believing in blurry shit as something tangible because it validates your cause. it just makes you look bad to people who ask for evidence.

Chukzombi · Sep 16, 2021

Zaara said:
Sandstone theatre of carved reliefs in Saudi Arabia newly discovered to be the oldest standing relief carvings in the world. 6000BCE, older than Stonehenge and Pyramids.

Each is life-sized or close to it. Meeting place of some kind for the herders/nomadic people- Saudi Arabia was grassland back then.

Some are less than impressive in terms of 'artistic accomplishment' but it seems to be the work of successive generations/gatherings. The more complete ones are pretty fucking realistic, as they imply 'released' reliefs where the heads were carved in the round. As the older panels eroded or collapsed they were recarved.

hehe, i kid. thats pretty sweet. this stuff is getting closer and closer to Gobekli Tepe's 13,000 year old structures

Moogalak · Sep 16, 2021

Chukzombi said:
you act like i'm just some cynical asshole. i believed all this stuff 20 years ago. i believed in bigfoot and nessie and space aliens and ghosts and all this other unexplained stuff. i stopped buying into it with the digital age and smartphone cameras they still cant come up with one goddamned verifiable image of anything. they are so low effort, that those carefully crafted hoax images from the 60s and 70s are much more believable than whats being presented today. i only asked for one clear image and you couldnt even do that. its fine to believe in cryptids, life on other planets or the possibility that we are being visited, ancient history has reports of this stuff too. its something. its ok to wonder and talk about it. whats not ok is believing in blurry shit as something tangible because it validates your cause. it just makes you look bad to people who ask for evidence.

It isn't cynicism. It's capitulation to the fact that the dis/misinformation campaigns led by various parties on all sides of the issue have succeeded in their efforts. Your logic is 100% sound with the information we can all agree on thus far. Thus, you have put yourself in a logic trap. Nothing will convince you because the standards required for proof is a moving target.

A photo isn't going to convince anyone anymore.

Chukzombi · Sep 16, 2021

Moogalak said:
It isn't cynicism. It's capitulation to the fact that the dis/misinformation campaigns led by various parties on all sides of the issue have succeeded in their efforts. Your logic is 100% sound with the information we can all agree on thus far. Thus, you have put yourself in a logic trap. Nothing will convince you because the standards required for proof is a moving target.

A photo isn't going to convince anyone anymore.

it would likely be a moving image since people still havent figured out how to quickly compose their still shots after 200 years, but as i said, everyone on a smartphone has the tech in their backpocket to make HD videos. amateur astronomers have incredible telescopes capable or seeing the rings of Saturn from their back porches. those images are also recorded digitally. none of them have ever spotted spaceships chugging around in space or in our skies. its pretty sad when you start to question this stuff and look into it. it implies no other worldly entity gives a fuck about this planet or solar system.

MusicForFish · Sep 16, 2021

Got my hands on something special. Filmed on an old non-digital camera from an F-18. Footage correlates to a reported incident nearly 2 decades ago. Still researching before posting but I can hardly contain my massive excitement erection atm.

Moogalak · Sep 16, 2021

Chukzombi said:
it would likely be a moving image since people still havent figured out how to quickly compose their still shots after 200 years, but as i said, everyone on a smartphone has the tech in their backpocket to make HD videos. amateur astronomers have incredible telescopes capable or seeing the rings of Saturn from their back porches. those images are also recorded digitally. none of them have ever spotted spaceships chugging around in space or in our skies. its pretty sad when you start to question this stuff and look into it. it implies no other worldly entity gives a fuck about this planet or solar system.

The fact that you can't get past the "we have cameras everywhere why no pic?!!" says a lot. You're taking so much for granted. Telescopes have a ridiculously tiny field of view. Try to take a picture of anything in the sky at night or in the daytime with the best cell phone money can buy and see how it works out.

Chukzombi · Sep 16, 2021

Moogalak said:
The fact that you can't get past the "we have cameras everywhere why no pic?!!" says a lot. You're taking so much for granted. Telescopes have a ridiculously tiny field of view. Try to take a picture of anything in the sky at night or in the daytime with the best cell phone money can buy and see how it works out.

if you cant see the object to get a recognizable image, then its just an eyewitnes account.

Mudcrush Durtfeet · Sep 16, 2021

Moogalak said:
It isn't cynicism. It's capitulation to the fact that the dis/misinformation campaigns led by various parties on all sides of the issue have succeeded in their efforts. Your logic is 100% sound with the information we can all agree on thus far. Thus, you have put yourself in a logic trap. Nothing will convince you because the standards required for proof is a moving target.

A photo isn't going to convince anyone anymore.

And yet in a time where supoosedly any good photo is faked, no one is doing that.

Hosix · Sep 16, 2021

MusicForFish said:
Got my hands on something special. Filmed on an old non-digital camera from an F-18. Footage correlates to a reported incident nearly 2 decades ago. Still researching before posting but I can hardly contain my massive excitement erection atm.

If this is that circular ufo that goes up along a wing? Don’t post. It’s shit.

MusicForFish · Sep 16, 2021

Hosix said:
If this is that circular ufo that goes up along a wing? Don’t post. It’s shit.

It's always shit bro.

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