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Rajaah

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then you got pranksters who just like to fuck with people for the funzies. most or all of those famous crop circles in the UK were made by a couple of drunks trespassing in farmers lands at night after the pubs closed. they made these designs because it was fun to do and they got attention from it. when they came forward and admitted it, people still didnt believe it. they said no way could two drunken friends have made these things in such complex designs. so the two guys literally went into a field and recreated their work for the cameras and the true believers still refused to believe it.


Want to note that I'm not a true believer but I have always been interested in crop circles out of curiosity for their complexity.

That said, the situation isn't quite so cut-and-dry. There's no way those two guys are even responsible for all the crop circles in the UK much less worldwide. Also the ones they took credit for were pretty non-complex compared to the incredible designs in some places. When they re-created it on-camera, their live crop circles were very iffy and asymmetrical. Also the two guys in question were old and out of shape.

The news media ran with it and basically pretended that these guys were behind the entire crop circle phenomenon and people bought into it, or this somehow meant all of them were explained. Including me, I didn't know any better until like a month ago. It's like saying all world religions are debunked just because some old writings turn up by a guy saying he wrote the Bible and "made it all up". Or saying the Central Park Five are all "exonerated" because some other guy came forward and said he did it alone and his DNA was present just like theirs was.
 
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Chukzombi

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Want to note that I'm not a true believer but I have always been interested in crop circles out of curiosity for their complexity.

That said, the situation isn't quite so cut-and-dry. There's no way those two guys are even responsible for all the crop circles in the UK much less worldwide. Also the ones they took credit for were pretty non-complex compared to the incredible designs in some places. When they re-created it on-camera, their live crop circles were very iffy and asymmetrical. Also the two guys in question were old and out of shape.

The news media ran with it and basically pretended that these guys were behind the entire crop circle phenomenon and people bought into it, or this somehow meant all of them were explained. Including me, I didn't know any better until like a month ago. It's like saying all world religions are debunked just because some old writings turn up by a guy saying he wrote the Bible and "made it all up". Or saying the Central Park Five are all "exonerated" because some other guy came forward and said he did it alone and his DNA was present just like theirs was.
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The Why Files had an episode on crop circles fairly recently. I too thought they were debunked with the confession by those old guys. But, nope, they appear to have been part of a disinformation campaign.
 
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Loser Araysar

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What hoaxes we going to relitigate next? Loch Ness monster?
 

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What hoaxes we going to relitigate next? Loch Ness monster?
I think it's a plesiosaur and it's evading detection using a cave system. The entire local population are crisis actors. You can't disprove it.

Did you notice that name "Nessie" and "Loch Ness" sound similar? Can't be a coincidence.
 
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The Why Files had an episode on crop circles fairly recently. I too thought they were debunked with the confession by those old guys. But, nope, they appear to have been part of a disinformation campaign.

I watched that episode this morning because of this post. I didnt find it to be a compelling debunking of "crop circles are a hoax" position. I think that given the location of circles, the fact that they have been easily replicated in competitions, the fact that a good chunk of them were within a small area where those 2 guys lived, that they didnt start appearing before 1980s -- I think all that points to obvious human involvement. Not to mention the preposterous idea that aliens are trying to communicate to us for almost half a century with abstract fractals or geometric shapes instead of just landing and saying "whats up"

I like the concept of the TWF show in general, I think he does a good job of pulling from a lot of different sources. My big issue with the half a dozen episodes I've watched over past few months is that he presents every conspiracy theory as if it were true and argues in favor of every single one. There isn't even a disclaimer of "Some people believe" before he goes off on every nutbag tangent and presents it as fact.

TWF probably could use its own thread. I think it would be interesting to discuss individual episodes.
 

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Did he go into how the average human pair can create crop circles employing both fire and dry ice while simultaneously intricately weaving individual fibers in the middle of the night? No? Funny that.
 

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Did he go into how the average human pair can create crop circles employing both fire and dry ice while simultaneously intricately weaving individual fibers in the middle of the night? No? Funny that.

Why are aliens making crop circles?
 

MusicForFish

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Why do you play these games every time?

Just come out and say it. It's tiresome having to pull this shit out of you post by post
I'm a little busy being savagely raped by a flying behonkler in the Underdark to give this attention right now bro. Goddamn it why weren't you reading the thread 3 years ago when we were having this discussion the first 2 times.

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Pretty much my understanding of the phenomena. Lots of different things, not one thing I particular.



 
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Rajaah

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The New York Times? Weren't they the ones who broke the story that Saddam had purchased large quantities of uranium and was currently working on building nukes?

They're literally Globohomo McNews.

Either way, there are a lot of complexities to the crop circle phenomenon that I haven't seen explained anywhere, like how some of them have their fallen wheat weaved together meticulously in perfect circles and the stalks are flattened with no actual damage to their structure, something that would seem to be pretty unlikely if a person is flattening them with a board (which creates numerous structural breaks).

I also think we should have a Why Files thread, that's a real good idea.