The Paranormal, UFO's, and Mysteries of the Unknown

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Cynical said:
Selected humans being trained in spacecraft as fodder for an intergalactic war? Trump didn't create Space Force for just the lulz.

It's one of the few scenarios I could possibly believe aliens would actually bother coming here, to use us or other life on this planet as tools or a resource somehow.

Influencing and manipulating our civilization to create the greatest reality TV show in the galaxy comes a close 2nd on my list.
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Holy shit. This wasn't fiction after all?!

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The latest Bigfoot theory has that they are interdimensional travellers which is why we can't find any lmao.
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The thing about Bigfoot is that there are HUUUUGE areas that people barely even go into. The U.S. has a few, central Australia, some of Siberia, central Asia, north Africa all have large areas with just like...nothing in them human-wise.

The champ is no doubt Canada though. Massive swathes of northern Canada hardly have any people in them and are mostly just nearly-untouched wilderness. The Canadian rockies have a few areas with zero civilization and very little human contact in general, like the famous Valley of Headless Men.

If Bigfoot's real, it's entirely plausible it's a rare creature in places like the Canadian rockies, far away from any humans, where a few of them could live out full lifetimes (however long that is) without ever seeing a human.

It doesn't need to be interdimensional or be an alien or whatever else. I mean it could be, but that seems to be leaping right over the logical conclusion that a creature like that would more likely just be a rare spawn in secluded parts of the wilderness.

Also that thing above about NASA security shooting one and then finding an "advanced tracking chip" in its arm sounds pretty stupid on all levels.
 
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Probably a Plesiosaur variant that survived the culling was probably alive at some point in the recent past, now just legend and grifting.
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What do you think about the theories that some dinosaurs stuck around WAY longer than the rest of them? I heard there's early human artwork showing dinosaurs, which would seem to be impossible. If modern humans have been around for 200k years, then maybe just maybe the last few dinosaurs existed in the wild long enough to be seen by us. Before being done-in by the last couple ice ages, only so much they can take.

That or the early humans were just seeing dinosaur-descendants that had enough of a resemblance to look similar in archaic art, and have since also died-off. Hell some modern water-fowl resemble very small dinosaurs. If they had to evolve down and adapt, then yes, they would have survived their extinction event and gradually phased out to become things we know in the modern era. Smaller sizes, less food requirement, more cold resistance. Regardless, what I'm wondering is if it's possible there were small pockets of dinosaur-descendants in isolated areas that survived through long enough to overlap with humans?

65 million years is a long time but it's also safe to say that our timescales have the potential to be inaccurate or distorted. See how they just drastically increased the agreed-upon age of the universe. Hell I'm about 90% sure that the Roman Catholic Church heavily distorted human history to form the modern narrative of it, and it's entirely possible that historians 2000 years ago had a better understanding of recent history (30,000 BC+) than we do. Would love for archaeologists of all stripes to have access to the Vatican's sealed archives, but that isn't happening short of a total reset of humanity. Probably the most protected place in the world.
 
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Rajaah said:
What do you think about the theories that some dinosaurs stuck around WAY longer than the rest of them? I heard there's early human artwork showing dinosaurs, which would seem to be impossible. If modern humans have been around for 200k years, then maybe just maybe the last few dinosaurs existed in the wild long enough to be seen by us. Before being done-in by the last couple ice ages, only so much they can take.

That or the early humans were just seeing dinosaur-descendants that had enough of a resemblance to look similar in archaic art, and have since also died-off. Hell some modern water-fowl resemble very small dinosaurs. If they had to evolve down and adapt, then yes, they would have survived their extinction event and gradually phased out to become things we know in the modern era. Smaller sizes, less food requirement, more cold resistance. Regardless, what I'm wondering is if it's possible there were small pockets of dinosaur-descendants in isolated areas that survived through long enough to overlap with humans?

65 million years is a long time but it's also safe to say that our timescales have the potential to be inaccurate or distorted. See how they just drastically increased the agreed-upon age of the universe. Hell I'm about 90% sure that the Roman Catholic Church heavily distorted human history to form the modern narrative of it, and it's entirely possible that historians 2000 years ago had a better understanding of recent history (30,000 BC+) than we do. Would love for archaeologists of all stripes to have access to the Vatican's sealed archives, but that isn't happening short of a total reset of humanity. Probably the most protected place in the world.
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One could hypothetical that some sea dwelling survived and kept going, reducing in size like everything else on the planet did. Hypothetical for obvious reasons.
 
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Rajaah said:
What do you think about the theories that some dinosaurs stuck around WAY longer than the rest of them?
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Dinosaur is kind of an arbitary category.

There are animals around today that were around back then (Sharks, Turtles), then there are animals that have dinosaur features and clearly evolved from them (Ostrich feet).

So really we are just asking if there are any undiscovered animals.

The exciting ones are just too big to not turn up somewhere (Whales beach themselves and die all the time, so would Nessies) and viable breeding populations would be visible from the air (Bigfoots). It's only little animals that can have a viable population in a small enough area, or deep sea animals.
 
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Rajaah said:
I heard there's early human artwork showing dinosaurs, which would seem to be impossible.
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You could always look it up and see if what you heard is true if you were that interested in it.

To save you all that trouble, there are no cave paintings that definitively depict dinosaurs. There are some that people want to believe are dinosaurs, but if I showed them to someone and told them in my authoritative MFF UFO voice that they are oxen or buffalo or some shit, most people would agree with that as well.

Or we could all just smoke some more weed and speculate crazy shit, which would probably be a lot more fun if I smoked weed.
 
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You could always look it up and see if what you heard is true if you were that interested in it.

To save you all that trouble, there are no cave paintings that definitively depict dinosaurs. There are some that people want to believe are dinosaurs, but if I showed them to someone and told them in my authoritative MFF UFO voice that they are oxen or buffalo or some shit, most people would agree with that as well.

Or we could all just smoke some more weed and speculate crazy shit, which would probably be a lot more fun if I smoked weed.
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That voice will take you places, all of them weird. So are we going camping?
 
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Edit* a fuller clip. Added the top comment as it does make natsec sense for the possible stonewalling tactics the DoD has been displaying.



I suppose it could just be China and Russia playing the long game via infiltration at the highest levels going back 80+ years to fuck with the world's heads while they release balloons and swamp gas while abducting and experimenting on average Americans and tracking them with drone tech they've actually had for decades, and using their space manufactured "alien" implants for all these years, while killing anyone that lets the secret out and planting Bob Lazars that expose weaknesses in the American DoD/Mil bases and a dominating display of advanced capabilities of turning nukes on and off again for reasons.
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My unofficial list of countries with the most likelihood of having super-advanced tech beyond what we have that no one knows about:

3. Russia
2. China
1. Israel

Russia I'm sure has better stuff than we're aware of, by a likely mild margin, because why show their hand? "Super-advanced", though, that I don't know. China is a big question mark and certainly has the capability to be well beyond our tech, given their secrecy, their money, and the fact that they haven't wasted funds and resources on bullshit wars over and over like the rest of the major powers. Then there's Israel. Nobody seems to know what they have, everything's off-books. Do they even have nukes? Who knows! Officially no, but that explosion in the southern Atlantic (joint with South Africa) indicated differently. And that was, what, 40 years ago? Also it seems like the powers that be really like to pool advantages to Israel. Wouldn't surprise me at all if they turned out to have things beyond what the US or China has. They don't need to have a massive military to have advanced tech in development, especially with the hidden resources available to them and aforementioned pooling of advantages.

All of that said, I think it's unlikely that any of the above actually have "super-advanced" tech. Also think it's unlikely that we're being visited by interstellar travelers. Seems much more likely that any unexplainable advanced phenomena are originating from somewhere nearby, either in our solar system or our own oceans.
 
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