The Sci-Fi Book Thread

Ukerric

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Plus side apparently it looks like the next honor harrington book due out this fall brings the various side spin offs together with the main line again
Just saw that. I finally pre-ordered the fall Safehold book and amazon added the new Honorverse book immediately to the suggestions. And I was pretty excited because it had no co-author, meaning main story line, not the Eric Flint collaboration (the Crown of Slaves spin-off). Yay!
 

Ukerric

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All that xxxxverse stuff made me realize I need to recommend a series called The Emberverse, by S.M.Stirling.

It started as a pair of trilogies, and, well, the guys at Roc started to throw lots of zeroes on large checks in front of him, so he kept writing more. Started writing that series in 1998. Lots of NYT bestseller list appearances by the books.

I'll give 5 stars to all of the series, except maybe the last two books at 4 stars maybe. The series appeal more to sci-fi & fantasy readers than pure sci-fi readers, even if the underlying Change (the original name of the series) is on the Clarke spectrum of explanations ("Any sufficiently advanced technology, blah blah..."). The original trilogy is completely self-contained and perfectly fine for non fantasy fans, and you can read the first two trilogies in any order you wish. I would recommend reading the prequel trilogy before starting on the Sunrise Lands, though, or you may grow confused on the third book of that trilogy.


I'll keep to vague and mild description of the books global themes to avoid spoilers on the action (the blurbs on Amazon are probably more spoilery than me). I'm splitting the series in a set so that, if you want to play it safe, you can purchase each set of 3-4 books, finish them, then decide to keep on reading if you liked them. He writes a book a year currently so you don't have to wait overmuch, but be warned the series is not over.


Prequel and original trilogy is theIsland in the Sea of Time, which has the island of Nantucket ripped from present and dropped back in 1250 BC. The most sci-fi part of the series. (Books: Island in the Sea of Time, Against the Tide of Years, On the Oceans of Eternity)

Second trilogy is theDies the Fireseries which opens with people hearing on the radio about a mysterious force-field around Nantucket island, before all powered technology stops working. That trilogy revolves around the founding of the big NW realms in Oregon: the Bearkillers, the Clan MacKenzie, the Portland Protective Association. This is pure post-apocalyptic stuff. (Books: Dies the Fire, The Protector's War, Meeting at Corvallis).

Third trilogy is "Dies the Fire, the next generation" books:The Sunrise Landsin which the children of the original founders cross the continent to Nantucket because "The Lady" sent for young Rudi MacKenzie. Classic fantasy quest (Books: The Sunrise Lands, The Scourge of God, The Sword of the Lady).

Fourth series is "now, we fight" directly coming off the previous one:The High King of Montival, this one is a classic fantasy of good vs evil epic war and all that. Oh, and that's a four-books series instead of a trilogy, and it felt a bit stretched from that. (Books: The High King of Montival, The Tears of the Sun, The Lord of the Mountains, The Given Sacrifice).

Fifth series is just starting recently:The Golden Princess, which, as the title implies, moves to the next generation and the grand-children of the founders. Two books out (The Golden Princess, the Desert and the Blade) with a third coming out later this year (Prince of the Outcasts) and apparently a fourth planned. This feels a bit like a re-tread of the previous two series, with similar themes, just on a broader canvas.

There's also an anthology of short stories by well-known authors (The Change), but beware that it includes a couple stories directly linked to the current series, so you should read it last. But it's intensely fun.
 

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What's the word on the David Weber Harrington series?

I'm on the third book at the suggestion of a regular at work. There's 16 of these books though. If this is space Drizzt I want out now!
Author has health issues, signs are that the series won't ever be finished. I'd find something else to read, as the pace of events really slows to a crawl in the last few books.
 

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This is becoming one of my favorite series. It's like some fucked up furry anime story with priests and aliens.
 

Pyratec

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All that xxxxverse stuff made me realize I need to recommend a series called The Emberverse, by S.M.Stirling.

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Just picked up the first book, Island in the Sea of Time, really enjoying it so far, thanks for the recommendation and a seconding of it from me.
 

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Reading Sparrow now. It's officially blue balls book. I'm basically at the part where it's half way between the story catching up with itself. (Story begin in 2060 and then goes back to 2019 or something then slowly two stories with the one main character get told simultaneously.)

Just get to the fucking point. Still enjoying it though.
 

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Just picked up the first book, Island in the Sea of Time, really enjoying it so far, thanks for the recommendation and a seconding of it from me.
That's more a prequel than anything. The first real book in that series is Dies The Fire. Awesome trilogy. The rest gets pretty semi-fantasy, but not too bad.
 

Pyratec

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That's more a prequel than anything. The first real book in that series is Dies The Fire. Awesome trilogy. The rest gets pretty semi-fantasy, but not too bad.
Yeah, the Island in the Sea of Time is like a prequel, but I think the Nantucket island from our world ended up somewhere else, on a different world. My basis for this reasoning is that in the prequel books, they are able to make steam engines work, gas powered vehicles still work, and gunpowder still explodes etc, whereas in the Dies the Fire books and setting, nothing explodes or builds pressure as it used to.

I have a pretty long daily commute on the train so I've gone through a lot of these books, four weeks after my original post and I'm on the ninth book of the series so far, the third book in the third trilogy that Ukerric mentioned above. I'm still enjoying it and I will finish it, but there are certain aspects of the book I've come to not enjoy so much, mainly the heavy focus on the religious aspect (and all the accompanying songs/prayers) and the author does tend to go on a bit long when describing food or landscapes, in my opinion. Relatively minor gripes though, and overall I'm still enjoying the books.
 

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I wanted to love Dies the Fire so much. I find it one of the most interesting premises for a fall from civilization and what would happen.

My god did I hate the series in practice though. So much fucking garbage in it that I couldn't stand. The ridiculous level of religion, the whole scottish thing seemed absurd, the characters and characterization was horrible. Absolutely none of the world felt credible to me, not even a bit of it plausible. I also felt it was just filled to the brim with "filler", as Pyratec is saying, just tons of overdone descriptions.
 

Pyratec

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I wanted to love Dies the Fire so much. I find it one of the most interesting premises for a fall from civilization and what would happen.

My god did I hate the series in practice though. So much fucking garbage in it that I couldn't stand. The ridiculous level of religion, the whole scottish thing seemed absurd, the characters and characterization was horrible. Absolutely none of the world felt credible to me, not even a bit of it plausible. I also felt it was just filled to the brim with "filler", as Pyratec is saying, just tons of overdone descriptions.
I feel the same way Khalid, I am 100% behind the premise, these kind of "post-apocalyptic" settings appeal to me so much and this one is well crafted. It's in the execution that the author sometimes falls a bit short. I think I'm a bit more willing to overlook these shortcomings than you are, as I do enjoy the books but you're right, it could at times be better written. The characters don't bother me so much, they're pretty typical fantasy tropes with the good looking hero that everything comes easily to, to the princess who has evil parents but becomes good when shown the light etc., however as mentioned above the religous stuff gets a bit heavy at times and the descriptions are just too long at times.
 

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Ok so after not being a yout anymore and bookstores dying off I'm having a hard time finding new books I care about reading. I'm sure I'm a bit more picky but there's so much self published chaff out there that it's just difficult to cut through.

Can anyone recommend a more recent sci fi series with a heavy emphasis on "naval combat" civilization vs civilization type stuff? I re-read all the Tom Clancy books recently so I'm in a techno thriller mood just more in the vein of sci fi and ships. No outrageous metaphysics and music bullshit, more BSG tech level is what I'm looking for.
 

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Can anyone recommend a more recent sci fi series with a heavy emphasis on "naval combat" civilization vs civilization type stuff? I re-read all the Tom Clancy books recently so I'm in a techno thriller mood just more in the vein of sci fi and ships. No outrageous metaphysics and music bullshit, more BSG tech level is what I'm looking for.
In random good timing I just finished reading Renegade by Joel Shepard last week. That was very much in that line with that and I thought it was pretty good.

Probably the biggest writer in that space is David Weber's Honor Harrington series, sometimes referred to as exploding spaceship porn. There is an argument to be made that he has lost it lately, but check out On Basilisk Station - if you like that there is a bunch of other good ones. I think it is free on baen books.
 

Ukerric

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Probably the biggest writer in that space is David Weber's Honor Harrington series, sometimes referred to as exploding spaceship porn. There is an argument to be made that he has lost it lately, but check out On Basilisk Station - if you like that there is a bunch of other good ones. I think it is free on baen books.
See the post a bit above:The Sci-Fi Book Thread - Page 11

Baen usually has the first volume of any of its large series as a free ebook to hook people:On Basilisk Station by David Weber - WebScription Ebook
 

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Author has health issues, signs are that the series won't ever be finished. I'd find something else to read, as the pace of events really slows to a crawl in the last few books.
Well in theory he is trying to wrap up the current honor harrington books in the next two books. The first one apparently is done but in final editing/approval stuff for release later this year. His safehold next book apparently will be the last one in that current cycle so in theory he is clearly moving in to tie up at least some major threads in the next couple years.
 

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Cool thanks guys, I'll try that series out and see where it falls in the spectrum of likeable things for me.
 

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mike shepards kris longknife series is good.

amazon's kindle unlimited has a lot of good sci-fi series that are avail for ~10 bucks a month, i've read more books in the past 3 months since i did unlimited than i had in the previous year.
 

Ukerric

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mike shepards kris longknife series is good.
It started good, but I dropped out of the series around book 8 or 9. I can't really pinpoint it, but at one point, I simply stopped caring about "The princess", and simply started to click "not interested" whenever the yearly book would pop on Amazon.

It's still well-rated atGoodreadsso there's stuff that's still enjoyable, but I would suggest buying books one at a time instead of splurging on the entire series after enjoying the first one on the expectation that it keeps on an even quality.
 

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So the Honor Harrington series is OK so far. I hate to say it's a bit juvenile but maybe a better way to describe it is the writing is not as precise as I'd like. It's OK, book 2 is a bit better so far, but it's just not very technical, the minutia of the action is tossed aside for 'splosions.
 

Ukerric

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So the Honor Harrington series is OK so far. I hate to say it's a bit juvenile but maybe a better way to describe it is the writing is not as precise as I'd like. It's OK, book 2 is a bit better so far, but it's just not very technical, the minutia of the action is tossed aside for 'splosions.
Just to remind you: Book 1 was written in '92, book 2 was '93. Twenty years later, the author is a bit better (but a bit slower. Age and all that stuff)
 

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Armada - same author as Ready Player One, much much worse. Don't read.

Code Breakers - 4 books by Colin F. Barnes, really enjoying it so far (on book 2). Basically a post apocalyptic world dealing with rogue AIs, human augmentation, and cybernetics. Lot of cliches but fun to read.

SevenEves - Neal Stephenson (Snow crash, Diamond Age, Cryptonomicon, etc). Good, solid first 1/2 of the book, 2nd half isn't nearly as good unfortunately which is typical Stephenson. Another end of the world modern times book.

Sleeping Gods - 2 books, Ralph Kern. Interesting +200 years scifi soap opera, not as good as Commonwealth or Culture but pretty decent