The Trayvon Trial

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TecKnoe

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random note: if you wear a hoodie in fl when its not one of the four days its cold, you are dumb. You also don't wear hoodies for the rain... They are cloth/fleece etc and would get soaked and make it worse and are anything but a fast dry material.
i never fucking understood this, can someone whos black come forward and explain it? why do you guys wear 3 shirts, a hoodie and pants with 2 pairs of socks, in 123 degree weather? oh then you wear the pants down to your ass so you might as well have just whore shorts or no pants.
 

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You do? I thought black people dont like the cold, which is why they wear all kinds of clothes even in hot weather.
 

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Lots of (but not all) prosecutors seem to keep win-loss stats on themselves. Not so sure about public records to that fact, but I'd give Cad some credence in his estimation. Of course that's really looking at cases they choose to bring to trial, lots of shit is lost before it ever gets started.
 

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Citation needed on your 90-95 percent. Im guessing your source is your own ass.

Prosecution has nowhere near that rate, even after they fudge their own numbers with plea bargains on cases they think they will lose.
Family in Constitutional Law (not criminal although no doubt there's some overlap) is quoting me 75% is a good benchmark of what "good prosecutors" manage, with many closer to the even mark.
 

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46 calls over 7 years, most of them Non Emergency Number calls. Heres a breakdown, they are all individually numbered since you appear to have problems with numbers, dates, years, the truth...

http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...plete-log.html
The "non-emergency number" is who the 911 operators transfer you to when you call for something of that sort - it's not any less "serious" of a type of call. In fact for the type of stuff he was reporting it was cutting to the chase more.
 

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The "non-emergency number" is who the 911 operators transfer you to when you call for something of that sort - it's not any less "serious" of a type of call. In fact for the type of stuff he was reporting it was cutting to the chase more.
What?!? You honestly think that all of the calls listed as Non Emergency Number calls in that list are ones that 911 has forwarded him to? From this page right here,http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.aspx?page=344it says the Non-Emergency Number is 407.688.5199 and if you look at any of the transcripts of his call from that night, they all start with "Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department"
 

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Not an alt. Old school Noows/FoH Lurker, but the utter stupidity and lack of facts in this thread have rustled my jimmies to the point of postation!
 

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What?!? You honestly think that all of the calls listed as Non Emergency Number calls in that list are ones that 911 has forwarded him to? From this page right here,http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.aspx?page=344it says the Non-Emergency Number is 407.688.5199 and if you look at any of the transcripts of his call from that night, they all start with "Dispatcher: Sanford Police Department"
No - I mean for a "I suspect someone breaking in call" the 911 operator will then transfer you to the "non-emergency" number because its a non-emergency. Emergency numbers are supposed to be used for an imminent issue that involves life and limb - which his did not at that point.

Not that he called 911 and the transferred number was showing as such - that if he did call 911 he would've been forwarded to the same number and was just cutting out the 911 operator middleman.
 

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So he did the right thing by not clogging up the 911 operators, and this is an issue... why?
 

Vaclav

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He did the right thing but parsing it out from 911 which would have the same result is ludicrous.
 

OneofOne

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Depends on the story you are trying to tell (or in your case, spin). I take from it he was responsible enough to know when something was worth a 911 emergency call, and when something simply required police attention. It makes me think he is a more rational and calm individual for not going "omg 911 halp!" Having called both 911 and the non-emergency line myself before, I can appreciate the difference. Sure the result is the same, but how you go about it matters. I would think far less of some crank always calling 911 for shit.
 
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