The Trayvon Trial

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Duppin_sl

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I don't think that's terribly likely, since I don't make a habit of following people around while carrying a gun just because they look like they shouldn't be in my neighborhood.
 

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Courts get abused all the time (i.e. Patent Trolls, Media Industry suing little man for sharing files, etc). It is shitty though. Pretty much a bully tactic.
 

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I think you're really missing the point. Zimmerman is not on trial. The doubt of his innocence is beyond reasonable. That's why the state wasn't going to try him without outside pressures to do so -- and why the case against him is so slapdash and halfassed. Sure, he's in the courtroom but really it's Florida gun laws that are on trial, and this was an exceptionally bad battleground to choose to have that fight on for proponents of control. That weakness is exactly why you have the claims of racism and outrage.

I'm sure you could find a racially motivated gun murder in florida without having to look too hard -- which makes me wonder why they picked this one.

There ain't no justice for Travyon Martin in that farce.

This JewSpic was in the wrong place at the wrong time on so many levels. God hates him.
 

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I don't think that's terribly likely, since I don't make a habit of following people around while carrying a gun just because they look like they shouldn't be in my neighborhood.
Whats funny about that is nothing you just described is illegal. What Trademark did was illegal, ambushing and beating up someone for "following" them. So in your example, you'd be the one getting your ass beat by some poor disadvantaged black honor student who was going to be a nasa space pilot some day after he got through creating the cure for cancer. I hope in your case someone actually comes to help you and your not forced to defend yourself.
 

Duppin_sl

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I imagine a lot of people in Florida agree with the number of posters in this thread that think Zimmerman should've been sent home by the police with a tender kiss on the cheek, perhaps with a medal pinned to his chest for some damn fine American Inventorshootin'.

For my part, I think it's in society's best interest that we take an extended look at the circumstances that led to him killing another person, even if it turns out there isn't enough evidence to establish his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Such a terribly radical concept, I know.
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Duppin_sl

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Whats funny about that is nothing you just described is illegal.
I guess the difference between you and me is that I recognize that it's possible for a chain of actions to be legal, and still be a bad idea that just might end up putting me in a bad situation.
 

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For my part, I think it's in society's best interest that we take an extended look at the circumstances that led to him killing another person, even if it turns out there isn't enough evidence to establish his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt
Except that did happen initially. Not until the media decided to twist facts and straight up lie, did this get out of hand and was a trial deemed necessary.
 

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For my part, I think it's in society's best interest that we take an extended look at the circumstances that led to him killing another person, even if it turns out there isn't enough evidence to establish his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
I see, so the first responders, eye witnesses, police detectives, medical examiners and who all backed up Zimmerman's story from the beginning have to have a trial to further prove to you that every T has been crossed and every I dotted. Gotcha.
 

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I imagine a lot of people in Florida agree with the number of posters in this thread that think Zimmerman should've been sent home by the police with a tender kiss on the cheek, perhaps with a medal pinned to his chest for some damn fine American Inventorshootin'
What you forget is that the police at the scene didn't just ignore the evidence. They looked at the evidence presented and it was fairly clear that Zimmerman had acted in self-defense. Then the first prosecutor made the same determination. Only after it got drummed up in the media and fairly innocent things were drummed up into racism (kinda like your 40+ calls in a year BS) that a special prosecutor came in and charged 2nd degree murder.
 

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Bullshit. The purpose of a trial is to expose evidence that can then be examined in a careful way. If the world worked the way you think it does, every prosecutor would have a 100% conviction rate.

As far as "a tremendous burden", boo fucking hoo. You know who has a bigger burden? Trayvon Martin. Six feet of dirt above him. I'm not too sad that Zimmerman is being mildly inconvenienced by having to defend himself in a court of law.
Prosecution actually very rarely loses trials... I would guess most prosecutors do have a 90-95% win rate. They don't take cases to trial that they can't win, generally. Look at the two most famous acquittals... OJ and Casey Anthony. Both of those should have been slam dunk convictions...

I actually have very rarely seen felony prosecutors bring weak cases to trial. Misdemeanor, yes, because they just don't spend much time on the cases and don't prep much if at all... felony cases they usually know inside and out, and they plead out the weak ones.

The DA's office KNEW they couldn't convict this guy and thus refused to charge him... but the public pressure resulted in a trial anyway. That the state is going to lose. What was the point of this, exactly?
 

khalid

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Man, the 40 calls in a year thing is turning into your Seal Team Ten. It's pretty hilarious.
You have implied over and over again that the media didn't blow things out of proportion or make shit up, yet you yourself did the very same thing the media did. It's fucking hilarious.
 

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Prosecution actually very rarely loses trials... I would guess most prosecutors do have a 90-95% win rate. They don't take cases to trial that they can't win, generally. Look at the two most famous acquittals... OJ and Casey Anthony. Both of those should have been slam dunk convictions...

I actually have very rarely seen felony prosecutors bring weak cases to trial. Misdemeanor, yes, because they just don't spend much time on the cases and don't prep much if at all... felony cases they usually know inside and out, and they plead out the weak ones.

The DA's office KNEW they couldn't convict this guy and thus refused to charge him... but the public pressure resulted in a trial anyway. That the state is going to lose. What was the point of this, exactly?
Citation needed on your 90-95 percent. Im guessing your source is your own ass.

Prosecution has nowhere near that rate, even after they fudge their own numbers with plea bargains on cases they think they will lose.
 

iannis

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Duppin, you seem to be really hung up on the fact the kid was a American Inventor.

It's hard to take that seriously. It comes off like a closet fag trying to slapfight his way out of a gaybar. While lisping.

Hell, being black just made him harder to aim at at night. That dude DOES deserve a medal for sharpshooting.
 

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Im convinced the prosecution is sending a big fuck you to the special prosecutor for forcing them to put this guy on trial when they decided he acted within the law. I will say that it must suck for TM's parents to have their son used like this. then again its their fault for allowing him to grow up to be a thug.
 

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I have no sympathy for the Martin family. They were the ones who went to the media to present this case of "crazy white vigilante hunted down our poor boy!" The media was like a shark smelling blood in the water and pounced. Think about it, why did they trademark his name? Why did they only release old photos of a 12 year old trayvon? Why did they sue the HOA and receive a 7 figure settlement?

The parents have profited greatly from this, including speaking engagements and "trashcan parties" at black churches all across the country where people put money into a trashcan that was then given to them, all of it not claimed as any form of income of course. If they had given 1/10th of a shit about their kid before they say the dollar signs, maybe this would have all been avoided, instead he had no real parental figure and was raised on the hood and thug culture that is so prevalent in black society and he died a thugs death.
 

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Damn Cad cock slapping you all over this thread Gunnar.
 
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