The Trayvon Trial

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http://www.colorofcrime.com/colorofcrime2005.html

- Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
- When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife.
- Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.
- The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.
Do note that most of those stats are in line with the rates of poverty amongst each group as well however. Once you look at income level equally the difference between races is very slim. [IIRC blacks once you factor in income level are actually UNDERREPRESENTED slightly and Hispanics slightly over - although it's been a while since I ran the math and too lazy to look over the other forum it came up]
 

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So do we think Zimmerman is going to testify?

With both detectives saying that they believed he was telling the truth, with the prosecutions failure to really discredit his statements much at all, I'm not sure he really should. Just would give a chance for the prosecution to try and trip him up.
 

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every time i have seen a defendant take the stand it ends badly. that recent trial with that blonde chick who murdered her boyfriend in the shower, it ended for her very badly. its bad practice and no good defense attorney would let their client go up there. the only time a lawyer rolls the dice is when the evidence against their client is insurmountable and figures at this point it couldnt hurt. in this case, the prosecution is blatantly helping the defense and even showing video of the defendant tell his side of the story on video. there is no need for zimmerman to ever take the stand.
 

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The black community in the US had one of the lowest crime rates and one of the lowest rates of single parenting/broken households in the country up until the 60s. Their community didn't go to shit until white liberals started teaching them to externalize blame and point the finger for everything bad in their community at mean ole white people not liking them and generations of racism inflicted on them. All you have to do is look at the races that were too small to get liberals attention (ie too small to swing an election) The Japanese were put in fucking concentration camps and hated more than anyone else in the US after WW2, now they're one of the most productive and least criminal/violent ethnic groups in the country. Fucking liberal apologists and the blacks themselves are the only ones keeping black people in the shithole today.
So... we should go back to separate schools and water fountains? Take away their right to vote? Go back to the good old days? Heck, there was probably virtually no crime committed by black people when they were still slaves, why don't we try that again?



Do note that most of those stats are in line with the rates of poverty amongst each group as well however. Once you look at income level equally the difference between races is very slim. [IIRC blacks once you factor in income level are actually UNDERREPRESENTED slightly and Hispanics slightly over - although it's been a while since I ran the math and too lazy to look over the other forum it came up]
Abso-fucking-lutely.
As a teacher, I had to take a course about teaching multicultural classrooms. The whole point was to get us to understand how different cultures are sometimes misunderstood and to try to respect students' backgrounds and keep them in mind when addressing students' individual needs. Nothing wrong with that, but one of the statistics we learned is that the single most important factor that affects a student's ability to learn in a classroom is their family's income level. It made me feel like we should really be addressingthatproblem instead of hoping teaching cultural sensitivity would somehow make a significant difference. But hey, that would involve challenging the status quo, and that isn't an option anywhere, let alone the education system.
 

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I agree, the state basically did the defenses job yesterday by playing all the interviews so its like Zimmerman testified yesterday and didn't even have to be cross examined . Then on top of that, you got the police on the stand to say they found him credible . Was watching Anderson cooper last night and he asked the panel straight up if the state has had a good day since this trial started. Nobody said nothing, tells you all you need to know.
 

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They had some analyst on CNN this morning saying that he will get manslaughter. And everyone I work with is convinced that this trial is going badly for Zimmerman, and that the only thing that matters is he followed Trayvon. Man, they are in for a shock.
 

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I dunno, while I agree that he should walk away a free man, I have to wonder how many of the jurors are going to want to pin SOMETHING on him, feeling, as some people here do, that a man died and some sort of punishment is required. I'm not saying it's logical thinking, but since when are most people logical.
 

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I dunno, while I agree that he should walk away a free man, I have to wonder how many of the jurors are going to want to pin SOMETHING on him, feeling, as some people here do, that a man died and some sort of punishment is required. I'm not saying it's logical thinking, but since when are most people logical.
While this may happen, to me it only happens if the jury doesn't follow the jury instructions. Unless the state has some blockbuster piece of evidence coming out, not sure you even have enough for manslaughter let alone 2nd degree murder. Whether he deserves it or not is a seperate issue.
 

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Guys I had a bad nightmare and haven't been following this thread since yesterday. I dreamed that a pack of monkeys were raping my girlfriend and forcing me to listen to their jungle music. Did chimpout 2013 happen or was I just dreaming? One of those realistic dreams I fear.
 

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While this may happen, to me it only happens if the jury doesn't follow the jury instructions. Unless the state has some blockbuster piece of evidence coming out, not sure you even have enough for manslaughter let alone 2nd degree murder. Whether he deserves it or not is a seperate issue.
Yeah, I have been a juror on a murder trial and they will definitely have the law explained to them at great length. The only way they just decide to "give him something" will be if they just blatantly ignore the law and go rogue, which they aren't likely to do when they were so carefully selected for the job.
 

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Do note that most of those stats are in line with the rates of poverty amongst each group as well however. Once you look at income level equally the difference between races is very slim.
So the new america that has to compete in the global economy and whose wages are being eviserated by free trade agreements exactly as ross perot tried to warn america about, this america is where poor immigrants are going to come for the american dream that no longer exists? even having a college degree is no guarantee that you will get a middle class job anymore, there will be no elevating the masses now.
 

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So the new america that has to compete in the global economy and whose wages are being eviserated by free trade agreements exactly as ross perot tried to warn america about, this america is where poor immigrants are going to come for the american dream that no longer exists? even having a college degree is no guarantee that you will get a middle class job anymore, there will be no elevating the masses now.
Not without dismantling the 1%.
Now there's a group that's actuallydeservingof whatever level of animosity you're capable of mustering!
 

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So do we think Zimmerman is going to testify?

With both detectives saying that they believed he was telling the truth, with the prosecutions failure to really discredit his statements much at all, I'm not sure he really should. Just would give a chance for the prosecution to try and trip him up.
He basically already did since they played his interviews in court, defense would be dumb to put him on the stand and expose him to cross examination at this point. The prosecution literally already played everything Zimmerman has to say on the case in court.
 

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Not without dismantling the 1%.
Now there's a group that's actuallydeservingof whatever level of animosity you're capable of mustering!
What does "dismantling the 1%" mean? And how does that bring jobs back to the US?
 

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What does "dismantling the 1%" mean? And how does that bring jobs back to the US?
He's just parroting the dummy spectrum from the left.

he was doing this shit a few months before, dumb as fucking dirt.
 

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He's a weabbo pedo. He probably thinks this can be accomplished by making the rich live with a poor black family.
 

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I dunno, while I agree that he should walk away a free man, I have to wonder how many of the jurors are going to want to pin SOMETHING on him, feeling, as some people here do, that a man died and some sort of punishment is required. I'm not saying it's logical thinking, but since when are most people logical.
It's impossible to tell. I thought the same thing when I was watching Casey Anthony trial and they let that bitch whore walk. I wouldn't be surprised to see Zimmerman get manslaughter from this jury, then win an appeal and walk away a free man, the evidence just isn't there for a murder charge, and for manslaughter it's very iffy, since we have an eye witness saying the guy on the bottom was screaming for help while the guy on top was beating the life out of him. I don't know exactly how the law works, but even if you provoke someone, doesn't give them the right to beat you to death, I would think anyways.
 
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