The Trayvon Trial

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Skanda_sl said:
I'm still laughing that you think taking an armed and dangerious racist (your words) and putting him in a box with a black family will fix the situation. A few hugs from a black person will clear that racism right up.
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As opposed to what? Are you suggesting he would gun down every member of that family and pour their blood in his breakfast cereal?


ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
Tanoomba, what makes you think Zimmerman never had to deal with racism directed at him? Only black people can be the target of racism? Not a Hispanic person?
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Who said he never had do deal with racism? Not me. But if you're going to tell me that a guy who far all intents and purposes looks "white" has any idea of what a black person's day-to-day life is like, I'm going to call bullshit. Again, this isn't fucking rocket science, but by all means keep reaching and stretching in your quest to justify racism.
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
Who said he never had do deal with racism? Not me. But if you're going to tell me that a guy who far all intents and purposes looks "white" has any idea of what a black person's day-to-day life is like, I'm going to call bullshit. Again, this isn't fucking rocket science, but by all means keep reaching and stretching in your quest to justify racism.
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One, he does not look white. You're saying that if went and lived with a black family, his views would have changed due to the racism they encounter all the time in their lives. I am saying he probably dealt with racism growing up (really a Hispanic Jew probably got ragged on all the fucking time in school at least) and knows what it feels like to be targeted because of just who he is. If you couldn't deduct that from my post, again I reiterate, you are retarded.

Edit because you are fucking retarded. As everyone has said and the evidence has shown there is zero reason to believe Zimmerman is racist. You seem to still be believing all the shit information the news outlets plastered all over the place right after the incident happened. Maybe, the police questioned him and let him go so quickly because there was such a glaring amount of evidence to suggest Zimmerman really didn't start the confrontation and was defending his life. Not until the media heard about it did they blow the thing out of proportion and put the Zimmerman and legal system in the position it is in now. Or maybe Zimmerman was racist, who knows? We don't though other than going by a kneejerk reaction by the media and zero definitive proof.
 
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Maybe instead of making up shit off the top of our head as to what Zimmerman is and is not and what really happened, let's look at what the evidence shows:

The evidence does not show Zimmerman as a racist. There are no previous instances of Zimmerman using racial slurs or discriminating against black people, unless you count calling 911 to report suspicious black people since all the previous crimes in the neighborhood involved black people. In fact, the previous year he actually was part of a rally that condemned the SPD against the beating of a homeless black man by a cop.

The evidence does not show that Zimmerman instigated the fight. It shows that he did at one point follow him, then was asked (not told, 911 operators have no authority to give orders) to stop following him. There is no evidence that proves that he continued to follow him, outside of Rachel's testimony.

Saying it's Zimmerman's actions (getting out of the car and initially following) that caused the whole confrontation completely ignores any actions Martin could of taken. The point is that none of this can be proven one way or the other. Is it possible Zimmerman threw the first punch? Sure. But if I understand the justice system correctly, you need to prove that. Not say 'well it's possible' and thus throw the guy in jail because it's possible.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
One, he does not look white. You're saying that if went and lived with a black family, his views would have changed due to the racism they encounter all the time in their lives. I am saying he probably dealt with racism growing up (really a Hispanic Jew probably got ragged on all the fucking time in school at least) and knows what it feels like to be targeted because of just who he is. If you couldn't deduct that from my post, again I reiterate, you are retarded.

Edit because you are fucking retarded. As everyone has said and the evidence has shown there is zero reason to believe Zimmerman is racist.
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Yes he damn well does look white. Get the fuck over it.
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And yes, I'm saying that if he lived with a black family it would give him some insight and extra perspective. There's nothing I failed to deduct from your post because it was a shitty post.

From Zimmerman'sMySpace page(2005):

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I dont miss driving around scared to hit mexicans walkin on the side of the street, soft ass wanna be thugs messin with peoples cars when they aint around (what are you provin, that you can dent a car when no ones watchin) dont make you a man in my book. Workin 96 hours to get a decent pay check, gettin knifes pulled on you by every mexican you run into!?
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That is fucking racist. Would you like to once again contort the rules of space-time and explain to me how that isn't? Your statement about there being no evidence and no reason to believe Zimmerman is racist is unequivocallyFALSE. Get. The fuck. Over it.
 
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Again, I reiterate you are fucking retarded. His myspace page was not used for years. He is 29 now and was 22 at the time of the comments. I GUESS NO ONE CAN EVER CHANGE, especially from when they are in their early 20's. There is no evidence that he was targeting people because of their race.
 
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ZyyzYzzy_sl said:
Again, I reiterate you are fucking retarded. His myspace page was not used for years. He is 29 now and was 22 at the time of the comments. I GUESS NO ONE CAN EVER CHANGE, especially from when they are in their early 20's. There is no evidence that he was targeting people because of their race.
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You said there wasno reasonto believe he was a racist. If he used to be a racist, that's already at least some reason to believe he still may be one. Shit, how quickly did everyone jump to label Martin a hoodlum because he had jewelry in his school bag at one point years ago? Funny how you get to pick and choose what "evidence" to make judgments from.

But you're right about how people can change from how they are in their early 20s. Why, in another 10 years Treyvon Martin might go from being a "hoodlum" to managing a team of data analysts for a... oh wait, he's dead.

That's OK, keep using the word "retarded". It really makes you sound like you know what you're talking about.
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
You said there wasno reasonto believe he was a racist. If he used to be a racist, that's already at least some reason to believe he still may be one. Shit, how quickly did everyone jump to label Martin a hoodlum because he had jewelry in his school bag at one point years ago? Funny how you get to pick and choose what "evidence" to make judgments from.

But you're right about how people can change from how they are in their early 20s. Why, in another 10 years Treyvon Martin might go from being a "hoodlum" to managing a team of data analysts for a... oh wait, he's dead.

That's OK, keep using the word "retarded". It really makes you sound like you know what you're talking about.
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Where is the evidence Zimmerman exhibited racism towards African Americans?
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
Yes he damn well does look white. Get the fuck over it.
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And yes, I'm saying that if he lived with a black family it would give him some insight and extra perspective. There's nothing I failed to deduct from your post because it was a shitty post.

From Zimmerman'sMySpace page(2005):



That is fucking racist. Would you like to once again contort the rules of space-time and explain to me how that isn't? Your statement about there being no evidence and no reason to believe Zimmerman is racist is unequivocallyFALSE. Get. The fuck. Over it.
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No it is not racist. It was a complaint about people specific to one neighborhood, not a race as a whole.

There are black neighborhoods I would not be caught in at night. On the other hand, if I were to be gone from home for awhile, I would not hesitate to ask my neighbors (also black) to watch the house.
 
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Araysar_sl said:
bleeding heart, white guilt liberal

grow a spine.
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Sorry, try again. You have not convinced me I'm a liberal.

You guys can read horrifically racist, hateful and blatantly ignorant comments here all the time and never say a word. I claim to have a problem with this kind of behavior andI'mthe spineless one?

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Coren_sl said:
No it is not racist. It was a complaint about people specific to one neighborhood, not a race as a whole.

There are black neighborhoods I would not be caught in at night. On the other hand, if I were to be gone from home for awhile, I would not hesitate to ask my neighbors (also black) to watch the house.
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He said "mexicans", twice. You can choose to infer his words as you wish, but those are racist statements. Why are you bending over backwards to defend racism?
Saying "There are black neighborhoods I would not be caught in at night" is one thing. Saying "Can't go out at night 'cuz there's blacks everywhere" is another. Guess which is more racist?
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
Sorry, try again. You have not convinced me I'm a liberal.

You guys can read horrifically racist, hateful and blatantly ignorant comments here all the time and never say a word. I claim to have a problem with this kind of behavior andI'mthe spineless one?

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we dont have to convince you of anything. everyone else can see it, ya pussy
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
He said "mexicans", twice. You can choose to infer his words as you wish, but those are racist statements. Why are you bending over backwards to defend racism?
Saying "There are black neighborhoods I would not be caught in at night" is one thing. Saying "Can't go out at night 'cuz there's blacks everywhere" is another. Guess which is more racist?
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Guys calling a Mexican a Mexican is racist. I hate it when people call me Italian, it's so fucking racist.
 
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Tanoomba_sl said:
He said "mexicans", twice. You can choose to infer his words as you wish, but those are racist statements. Why are you bending over backwards to defend racism?
Saying "There are black neighborhoods I would not be caught in at night" is one thing. Saying "Can't go out at night 'cuz there's blacks everywhere" is another. Guess which is more racist?
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I am not defending racism, you're inventing it where none exists.

If a group of trouble makers are Mexican, it's not racist to refer to them as such, nor does it mean you consider all Mexicans to be like those in that group of trouble makers.

It sounds like George lived in a rough Mexican neighborhood. My Mexican step father has also told stories of similar neighborhoods.
 
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