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Kreugen_sl said:
Like Shane may have been right about a lot of things but he was clearly full of shit when he tried to justify his actions as being "for the group." (for the poon, more like it)
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I see what Rick did in the last episode as being pretty much on par with this. He was going to kill off wife beater so he could get the wifey poon. Amazing how much Rick has become like Shane lately.

Kreugen_sl said:
Granted, Carol just straight up wanted a guy dead for being a wife beater and did everything she could to manipulate that outcome. But that's not on the same level as wanting a whole town of strangers dead just for hanging out in the same zip code.
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Round 2 with the governor where he attacked the prison was definitely out of vengeance. But Rick wanted to do the same thing to the folks at Terminus. He said "they don't get to live" after they all got out but was talked out of it. I have wondered if the walking dead was from the perspective of the folks in Woodbury would we have thought that Ricks group was the bad guys.

All this comes from an argument I had with a buddy about the show because he claimed that he would remain honorable through out and not do any "evil" and my point was that you really wouldn't know what you would be capable of doing until put in those situations. I like the point that Bob made that at somepoint if things get better you are going to have to come back from the abyss and reconcile the things you did while you were out there. I think Ricks group is at that edge of trying to figure out just what is their limits. Some don't seem to have limits (Carol for instance) and I am curious if this is going to be a problem later down the road.
 
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there is something you have to realize about modern TV. due to shows like Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad blurring the lines between good and evil more and more shows are being made with characters who have ambiguous morals. there are no good guys in The Walking Dead. there is no main antagonist and rick is by no means a protagonist. everyone is a survivor and the shit they do is shit they do to survive. shows dont even paint crazy people as evil anymore. they need to tell you that they arent really evil, but they have mental issues due to past trauma in their lives. even The Flash is doing this with their villains.
 
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Maester Chuk_sl said:
there is something you have to realize about modern TV. due to shows like Game of Thrones and Breaking Bad blurring the lines between good and evil more and more shows are being made with characters who have ambiguous morals. there are no good guys in The Walking Dead. there is no main antagonist and rick is by no means a protagonist. everyone is a survivor and the shit they do is shit they do to survive. shows dont even paint crazy people as evil anymore. they need to tell you that they arent really evil, but they have mental issues due to past trauma in their lives. even The Flash is doing this with their villains.
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If only TWD could manage this we'd be in business!
 
Quineloe

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I know that every single show and movie ever are guilty of this, but the explosive power of grenades is really getting fucking old.

and what kind of cruel person would name their son "Major Dodson"
 
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it is a strange world, grenades can level a house while bullets can be stopped by tin foil.
 
Quineloe

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The whole Glenn arc was terrible. He's obviously immortal. The entire episode was too dark, it was like playing Doom 3, I didn't see shit because I watched it at 11am on a sunny day. The random death was just as stupid as blondie in the hospital. Oh, cut down the husband of your president, that will get your point across.

The chain kill was instantly fucked by the gay guy coming out from under the truck and watching Daryl instead of checking the only other direction where zombies could attack from. The trap was absurd to begin with, but the idea of resetting it perfectly with two guys? Oh come the fuck on. I guess zombies are more docile off camera.

I'd like to say something about the parts I liked, but we all know nothing else happened in 64 minutes of show, because it was all long drawn out and filler. And the episode opened so well with Morgan going all Donatello on the bad guys.
 
kaid

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Tenks_sl said:
That is a fair question. It does seem like they pull the "Just kill them" card pretty early and often.
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Well given their experiences to date its surprising they don't just go immediately to just kill them as rick says what can you do banish them so they can come and attack you later when you are not expecting. While zombie hordes themsleves are not that dangerous if you know they are coming some person actively trying to sabotage your defenses and lure zombies in can turn what seems like a safe area deadly very fast.

Hell if a prison could not be held due to the effects of other people something like Alexandria has zero chance of surviving.
 
Mures

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Quineloe_sl said:
The whole Glenn arc was terrible. He's obviously immortal. The entire episode was too dark, it was like playing Doom 3, I didn't see shit because I watched it at 11am on a sunny day. The random death was just as stupid as blondie in the hospital. Oh, cut down the husband of your president, that will get your point across.

The chain kill was instantly fucked by the gay guy coming out from under the truck and watching Daryl instead of checking the only other direction where zombies could attack from. The trap was absurd to begin with, but the idea of resetting it perfectly with two guys? Oh come the fuck on. I guess zombies are more docile off camera.

I'd like to say something about the parts I liked, but we all know nothing else happened in 64 minutes of show, because it was all long drawn out and filler. And the episode opened so well with Morgan going all Donatello on the bad guys.
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Did you miss the zombie rave part then? And ppl seem to think there are more than just 2.

Also Morgan on the talking dead after the show said he was trained by Donatello for the show irl, well the guy who actually played Donatello in at least one of the tmnt movies.
 
Quineloe

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mures_sl said:
Did you miss the zombie rave part then? And ppl seem to think there are more than just 2.

Also Morgan on the talking dead after the show said he was trained by Donatello for the show irl, well the guy who actually played Donatello in at least one of the tmnt movies.
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The zombie rave would get them walking into one direction, but splitting them evenly into half a dozen trucks and wherever the fuck the other half came from? No. That trap is pure "lol lets make something huuuuuuuuuge" on the writers' part.
 
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Don't be silly. Zombies are smart enough to know when someone set up a sound and light show in the backs of trucks you split up, walk around obstacles, and right into the back as trained! Just like they've learned to stealth and know to put their really strong dentures in before trying to bite someone!
 
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The dumbest part about all that wasn't the trap reset, it was the fact Daryl didn't notice all the damned steel wire rigged to all the trucks and thought that was suspect ;p
 
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Cybsled_sl said:
The dumbest part about all that wasn't the trap reset, it was the fact Daryl didn't notice all the damned steel wire rigged to all the trucks and thought that was suspect ;p
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This was my biggest problem with that scene as well.
 
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Or, you know, heard all the Zombies inside the trailer since once the door was opened they were already screaming
 
kaid

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They forgot the first rule of the zombie appocalypse. Zombies don't like rude people so always knock first before entering.
 
Mures

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Cybsled_sl said:
The dumbest part about all that wasn't the trap reset, it was the fact Daryl didn't notice all the damned steel wire rigged to all the trucks and thought that was suspect ;p
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He did notice something about the trucks, they focused I think on one of the handles of the lift gate and Daryl looked at it funny. He knew shit was suspect and let Aaron override his better judgement.
 
Cybsled

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You're right, he did seem suspicious. Although kind of derp he went along with it anyways ;p
 
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