The Wolverine

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I was confused by the hand drilling / stealing of his healing aura at the end but overall was a decent movie.
 

BrutulTM

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Yeah I don't have a problem with it, I just think it's interesting.
 

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Haven't seen this movie or read the thread, but did it come up that action stars in hollywood are all on steroids now?

This is a 44 year old dude:

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He mentioned in an interview that his training regimen was 6 months prior to the movie, and that consisted of 2 hours every morning and 1 hour every evening. He also mentioned the strict diet. It's not outlandish to think he'd be ripped with that amount of work and dedication.

I remember a similar topic from the actor who played Ashur on Spartacus. He went through his training routine and then talked about his diet, and said something like "and make sure you have a cheat day, when you eat that slice of pizza or glass of beer you've been craving through the week." All I could think was *a* glass of beer? Sure you got pretty much the perfect body but fuuuuuuuck that noise.
 

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NFL players work out that much AND take steroids and most of them don't look like that. I realize that their goals are a bit different than a body builder, but I don't think a 44 year old gets that body just from working out.
 

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I suspect you underestimate three things:

1) As you underlined: the difference in goals. Jackman wants good muscle mass, low body fat, but does not care about power, endurance or speed. Your NFL players want speed or power+weight.

2) On top of his training, Jackman benefits here from a professional photo shoot.

3) To reach his aesthetic goal, Jackman can be on a diet that would be of little use for an athlete and use supplements (without going into steroids) that a professional athlete is not allowed to use.


PS: Isn't it a little sad that Jackman spent probably more time exercising than the writers spent writing?
 

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I suspect you underestimate three things:

1) As you underlined: the difference in goals. Jackman wants good muscle mass, low body fat, but does not care about power, endurance or speed. Your NFL players want speed or power+weight.

2) On top of his training, Jackman benefits here from a professional photo shoot.

3) To reach his aesthetic goal, Jackman can be on a diet that would be of little use for an athlete and use supplements (without going into steroids) that a professional athlete is not allowed to use.


PS: Isn't it a little sad that Jackman spent probably more time exercising than the writers spent writing?
4) Steroids/HGH.

Who cares? Why does someone always get so defensive when anyone mentions action stars juicing? Why the fuck wouldn't they?
 

ronne

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Paul George is 45, why is it so hard to believe that Huge Jackedman could look like this after a year or more of intense training?

Paul:

 

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Having something like wolverines claws being broken? Having juggernauts powers turned off? Taking away Deadpool's mouth and giving him eye lasers? Those are fundamentally against those characters. That's the problem.
You do know that Wolverine had to go with the bone claws for a while in the comic as well right? Deadpool had his mouth back and the correct amount of facial scarring at the end of Origins. And IIRC a good deal of Juggernaut's actual power in the comics came from a gem and not hsi mutant genes (so could be removed).) Or am I just going through another delusional dementia phase of my alzheimers?
 

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Paul George is 45, why is it so hard to believe that Huge Jackedman could look like this after a year or more of intense training?
It's not impossible to believe, it's impossible to understand WHY he wouldn't use that shit. He's got the money to have it supervised and do it safely.

Every time some actor gets jacked and people mention steroids someone has to white knight about how it's possible without. Get over the whole taboo. He's not competing with anyone, there's no unlevel playing field. Juice the fuck up to look as much like a comic book character as possible. I know the actors won't admit it because of the taboo shit(except Stallone who was all about the HGH).

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I want that character and I don't care what they do to get there=P
 

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Plus lets not forget that he has essentially been paid to work out for the last what, 10 years? After you get to a certain point, it isn't that hard to get back to it like people said with all your meals made and ready for you to eat, and "endless" time to spend at the gym.
 

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I'm totally fine with actors using steroids and understand it's not a "magic pill". However, Hugh Jackman and other actors do get sponsorship deals and fitness magazine covers. HGH/Steroids are a no-no to be mentioned if they want to keep those going. You can't really blame sponsors for being this way considering how fanatical much of the online fitness community has been lately regarding steroid use. I've read shit-loads of posts that love to completely invalidate your diet and work in the gym if you're guilty of using a single cycle.

Youtube's fitness channels are host to a modern day witch hunt for "fake natural bodybuilders" lately. This is sometimes ending with the channel's uploaders getting doxxed for information that may prove they're using gear. (Ex. Matt Ogus used to strip/flex for camshows because he could get fast money. A doxxer digs this info up then the community insinuates he must be using it to pay for steroids.)
 

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You do know that Wolverine had to go with the bone claws for a while in the comic as well right? Deadpool had his mouth back and the correct amount of facial scarring at the end of Origins. And IIRC a good deal of Juggernaut's actual power in the comics came from a gem and not hsi mutant genes (so could be removed).) Or am I just going through another delusional dementia phase of my alzheimers?
it wasn't the bone part of his claws being broken that is the problem. it's the adamantium part of those broken claws. Deadpool getting his mouth back is all well and good, but that was only for SOME movie theatres. there was, what, 4 different post credit endings? and that still doesn't explain the stupid eye beams. juggernaut, i will admit has lost his powers several times. that being said, he's not a mutant. so Leech doesn't affect him. his powers are magical. why does the difference matter in this context? simply because they wanted to shoehorn in a popular character.

which is my problem with all of it. not that they change characters to adapt to the medium... just it doesn't make any sense... the average, non-comic book reading movie goer isn't going to have any idea who juggernaut is. but anyone who's read an x-men comic knows EXACTLY who he is. he's charles step-brother. that's part of their dynamic. he's the strength to xavier's brilliance. two sides of a coin. the movie doens't show that at all... so why have HIM instead of just a random brickhouse? they had him in order to bring in comic fans. which is totally fine. but then they alienate the people they are trying to impress... i just don't get it.
 

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I've been a professional athlete for around 8 years I don't really care if people don't believe me but I've played one of the most physical team sports in the world we train harder then nearly any other team sport and I can guarantee you not even our most fit/ripped athletes look that shredded. He is definitely on the gear, most likely pep-tides. People with the DNA to be professional athletes don't look like that and some of you here think a fucken actor can get this shredded without help from some form of performance enhancers and substances to boost recovery. Granted this is an MMO forum I guess it's like a lot of people here going into a sports team locker room and talking about computers.

Anyway long story short. He has definitly taken shit and he will never admit it because it's a very bad example and will hurt his rep. Even when you take steroids/fat strippers you still have to train fairly hard. You simply recover WAY quicker and perform better.
 

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I can guarantee you not even our most fit/ripped athletes look that shredded
Probably because athletes train for endurance and interval strength, not hypertrophy.

Again, I'm not saying he hasn't taken PEDs, cause the simplest and most likely answer is that he has, but that picture isn't proof of anything. Nobody goes around looking ripped like that every single day regardless of what their training or drug regimen is. When you have a photoshoot coming up, you manipulate your water weight in the days/week leading up to the shoot to get that ridiculously ripped look. Professional bodybuilders do the exact same thing before competitions. It's purely aesthetics.

Take the exact same picture of Jackman a week before or a week after and he'll look fit but nowhere NEAR that ripped.