The Zionists are whining thread

Oh hey look, this thread again!

Threads like this are needed so posters can wave their dicks around every once in a while.

Which dick will win today!

I suport Israel, anyone who holocausts sandAmerican Inventors is good in my book. The more dead muslims, the better.

I would place your average neocon hawk on par with any terrorist sympathizer

I think this thread is stupid, but I have a hard time caring about the complaints when hardly anyone complains about the relatively common racism and homophobia on these boards.

Fanaskin: Hates the UN and thinks its evil, unless its condemning Israel.

The good news comign out of Israel is that the centre left has gained influence that has been translated into parliamentary seats. I expect them to be more interested in a combination of security and constructive diplomacy if they can distinguish themselves by the next election.

fanaskin_sl said:

The zionists khazars who created the state of israel ( the balflour delcaration was addressed to lord jacob rothchild ) are guided by the talmud not the old testament, this is a huge difference, read the talmud it lays a foundation for racial descrimination. Because they teach their kids in jewish schools they pass these traditions along. Traditions to treat all non jews terribly, to view them as a person views cattle so you may profit off them however you choose, descrimiate at will and even for the extremists it justifies to kill them if need be. which is what they are doing to the palestinians right now.

the talmud is an vile text that teaches these aristocratic khazar non semitic jews things like:

I think people should know these things, because they really do exist. The talmud was devoloped in babylon under bondage and seems to be an instruction book for how to work together to undermine a city and control it's money supply.

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I see people quote these verses from the talmud from time to time, normally grabbed from some jew hating site.

Its important to note that the talmud is not the holiest book for jews, that would be the Torah. Your statement that jews are guided by the Talmud moreso than the Torah is wrong. The talmud is a resource among the huge body of jewish literature. Secondly, the talmud is a series of debates, discussions and commentaries between rabbis about a variety of subjects, who often take sides and repeatedly contradict each other. Third, there are numerous translation issues when you consider the millenia that have passed and the language differences when you consider the "intended meaning".

Even the idea of using these ancient texts as ammunition in a debate on the modern israel/palestine conflict is ridiculous. I could just as easily open the Koran and find dozens of similar damning quotes against jews/non believers. Does this then invalidate the morality of the palestinian cause?

The fact that these single line are usually snatched out of context from a lengthy debate between scholars is disengenuous.

For example, in this passage:

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work

When taken out of context it looks damning, but it is in fact part of a much larger debate of the timing of when to pay people when there is no pay schedule in place, not "IF" they are going to be paid at all. A variety of scenarios follow that stipulate suggested payment times usually based off day/night. The talmud generally encourages payment by the end of the day, regardless if they are a gentile. The talmud repeatedly prohibits not paying a gentile at all.

Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

The translation here is wrong, the text reads "if a person is tempted", not "if a jew is tempted".

The discussion that contains this quote refers to what you say to a person who is unable to control an urge to do evil. The idea for travelling until nobody knows you, which will take days (at the time), is designed to be a "cooling off" period where a person can calm down and reconsider. It also goes on to describe what he should wear, and various other rules that are designed to take the person's mind off the intended crime and drown them in details.

Since the people who quote these lines are not scholars and have no interest to read/understand the talmud, they just use snippets of text to promote their warped worldview.

If you want to critique the actions/policies of modern israel (and there is plenty to critique), then do so in the context of the modern conflict. It is wrong to suggest that judaism as a religion condones what is happening in the middle east.

Simas_sl said:

I think this thread is stupid, but I have a hard time caring about the complaints when hardly anyone complains about the relatively common racism and homophobia on these boards.

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Your posts. I read them in a voice narrated by Peter Dinklage.

Tuco_sl said:

Great video. I thought the Mongols raped that area too though?

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The battle of Ain Jalut, which was a decisive victory for the Mamluks (and the first major defeat for the Mongols as a whole) ended what might otherwise been complete devastation of the area. The mongols raided again 30 years later and went as far as Gaza but their incursions into that territory was very limited.