Throne and Liberty (Formerly Project TL)

Sabbat said:

Isn't this your first pvp mmo? because it sure sounds like it.

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Uh I've played pvp mmos since ultima online. Played a pvp server for most of live EQ. Played daoc for a few years and many others and New World too. This game is worse than all of them because atleast the non pvp was fun in those. In this game unless you're giga juiced tf out you will die almost immediately upon seeing enemies, especially if you're a non tank melee. I've never seen a pvp mmo with such egregious cc locks since pre midgard daoc nerf.

Then you've got stupid shit like synchronized flash waves that can melt an entire raid force instantly with little to no counterplay. Not to mention stealthed dagger xbow spin to win that can also do the same thing with very little counterplay.

Lumi said:

Then you've got stupid shit like synchronized flash waves that can melt an entire raid force instantly with little to no counterplay.

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Ever heard of baiting?

Lumi said:

Not to mention stealthed dagger xbow spin to win that can also do the same thing with very little counterplay.

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Ooooof. Imagine still dying to spin to win because you don't know how to Q block and don't have enough gear 2 months into the game to survive that braindead gameplay.

Definitely doesn't sound like a game problem, me boy.

Kirun said:

Ever heard of baiting?

Ooooof. Imagine still dying to spin to win because you don't know how to Q block and don't have enough gear 2 months into the game to survive that braindead gameplay.

Definitely doesn't sound like a game problem, me boy.

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"In this game unless you're giga juiced tf out you will die almost immediately upon seeing enemies,"

I mean grats if you're retarded enough to either a) waste your life grinding this game to get the gear or b) spending money to just cheat your way to good gear

My gear is very solid and I'm 3300ish CP but those things will still kill you and you're full of shit if you claim you're never being killed by spray and pray spam.

Regardless there is barely any content in the game and the content that is in the game is boring. Definitely sounds like you have dog shit standards for games these days. I mean shit, even Albion Online which is another shit game at least has some good PvP ideas in it like hell gates which are group vs group dungeons that you fight for the right to kill the boss of. This game has barely anything and other than making players be the mounts themself this game has zero innovation at all or anything new and doesn't even use good ideas from other games.

Lumi said:

My gear is very solid and I'm 3300ish CP but those things will still kill you and you're full of shit if you claim you're never being killed by spray and pray spam.

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In a mass PvP game you get instantly dead and can't survive 10+ people jumping you? Weird.

And you'd be bitching that it's "too hard to kill people" if the opposite were true and you could live forever.

I have died to spray and pray spam, when the game was new. Now that I'm better geared and don't suck at Q blocking, that shit never kills me unless like 3+ crossbow users dive you. And again, why would the expectation be that you survive 3+ players diving you? I've never played a single MMO where that's a realistic expectation.

Lumi said:

Regardless there is barely any content in the game and the content that is in the game is boring.

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What's your clear time for 2* dungeons? Since this game is so EZ and boring let's see the VODs of your speed clears.

This game has some of the most involved dungeon mechanics I've seen in a modern MMO. You literally can't faceroll any of the new 2* dungeons. And when challenge modes come out the 5th they're only going to get harder.

This game was better than people thought it'd be, but yeah, PVP is hot dogshit. 3v3 type stuff if everyone is actually PVP geared is okay, but not rewarding enough to do. Anything beyond 10v10 is a shit show of AE nukes and CC's. Real trash shit, but I don't think I've seen anyone large scale PVP work out well since mid release New World honestly.

We did have a guildmate AE CC an entire raid alliance during a PVP World Boss, get them killed to AE, and another member went in, tagged it, and won the weapon. Pretty funny having 210+ people cucked by two rats waiting for an opportune time.

Kirun said:

In a mass PvP game you get instantly dead and can't survive 10+ people jumping you? Weird.

And you'd be bitching that it's "too hard to kill people" if the opposite were true and you could live forever.

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You mean like tanks? Lmao.

"And again, why would the expectation be that you survive 3+ players diving you? I've never played a single MMO where that's a realistic expectation."

Idk maybe it's because my server is so populated but 3+ players diving is the norm and unless I have my guardian up it's f'd. I mean I can survive pretty well because I have stealth.

"What's your clear time for 2* dungeons? Since this game is so EZ and boring let's see the VODs of your speed clears."

Ya about that. My group got to the boss and we were explaining mechs to a few people and someone triggered the boss and it insta killed me. They killed the boss with 5 and when I went to loot the box it said I couldn't because of not enough contribution lmao. Moron devs implementing completely retarded things like that. Anyway the two dungeons I did weren't that hard at all.

If a crossbow tries to spin on me I just press Tab and then click my CC skill. It's not hard lol

Kriptini said:

If a crossbow tries to spin on me I just press Tab and then click my CC skill. It's not hard lol

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Wow ok. So you just expect me to play at Jason Bourne levels the whole time?! Trash game!