Torchlight: Infinite

Ya if only there was a game mode that steered you away from the face roll meta garbage and required to you to come up with clever solutions

Lack of a damage log leading up to death in PoE is really stupid

Other than hitting 100 I finished the league. I would try for 100 but I did not get the right pet setup. I'm sure with a few leagues, as I'm not going to spend now to make up for the time, I will have more XP protection pets with enough levels.

Overall, it's the most fun in the end game in an ARPG I've played in a while. The classes I played felt great right away. Gemma autobomber cleared from a league start very well. Thea2 berserkering blade agil stacker felt like playing a HH character. The game has a bunch of autobombers(CoC, CwC, minions). Build varieties are interesting and there are several ways to build similar characters. Full juiced maps, despite their brevity, actually felt okay.

The gameplay loop of fishing for cards in the lower tier and juicing only the right combos could be improved. Crafting needs to be improved and this version was build-limiting. Boss fights are at Path of Exile's level; I would like to see a pinnacle boss added more in line with Lost Ark's legion raids. The energy system feels arbitrary(kills value on drops at low levels). Good loot or big loot explosions feels too rare and I say that having a 20k FE character that I got not even knowing the proper farming strats.

PoE does have more content. PoE could even be the better game if they were to implement all of TLI's QoL. Maybe, if GGG were to make PoE feel that it's a live service being developed in the current decade. But, the league start did feel better, even as a new player, in Torchlight than it did the last two leagues returning to PoE.

After playing this weekend I am amazed at how effective this dev team is:
-Fixed crafting so it's actually feasible and build-enabling
-Changed the card system to what I feel is virtually perfect
-In map mechanic ( granted it does have a loading screen) uses the maps mods for loot scaling
-The out of map Mechanic zone is enormous (2x the size of a large PoE map)
-Mechanic zone scales endlessly for increased loot/difficulty
-The pass character is worth it(I didn't like bing that much last league)
-Admitted that a drop rate change was bad and promptly fixed it.


A dev team that doesn't have a core philosophy of gating fun behind tedium is refreshing. The new season is amazing.

Kythik said:

After playing this weekend I am amazed at how effective this dev team is:
-Fixed crafting so it's actually feasible and build-enabling
-Changed the card system to what I feel is virtually perfect
-In map mechanic ( granted it does have a loading screen) uses the maps mods for loot scaling
-The out of map Mechanic zone is enormous (2x the size of a large PoE map)
-Mechanic zone scales endlessly for increased loot/difficulty
-The pass character is worth it(I didn't like bing that much last league)
-Admitted that a drop rate change was bad and promptly fixed it.


A dev team that doesn't have a core philosophy of gating fun behind tedium is refreshing. The new season is amazing.

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Did they make it so you can skip the story? I can't replay it for that reason.

Chris said:

Did they make it so you can skip the story? I can't replay it for that reason.

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Nope. But, I would welcome that change. the story does go smoothly on Iris with zero gear.

AladainAF said:

I need to play this season. Linky me a good build to explode maps lol.

I played the erika last season which I loved the mobility of and the constant AE of everything. Just braindead mapping.

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Cold Iris is what I am working towards(starter guide / endgame showcase). Currently, I am using lighting but that cold build looks great. The graphics AIDS can be turned off. CwC ring of ice thea2 was great last league. Milky has a juicer builds showcase video with links.

A big thing I noticed. We can bank 1 in map mechanic, by picking the shape and not running it. So, at n-1 don't run the mechanic. At activation you get an extra mechanic run with the 100% quant + other card mod. It's huge for stuff like the extra quant or chest cards; the chest card spawns the full number in each mechanic run, 12 chests instead of 4 with the legendary card.

The event they have running until the end of the month is the most fun I've had playing an ARPG since PoE 3.16 blasting 4 vessel rituals--where I got my two mirror drops in less than 24 hours. I'm playing a focus blessing stacking Thea2 Ring of Ice with TLI's version of a Headhunter. Eternity doesn't have the rare mod stealing but the buffs give the usual dmg, area effect, defenses, move speed, etc..

This game is far above and beyond Diablo4 or Last Epoch. The bleeding-edge top-end crafting could use a tweak but that's my only major complaint(a .03% chance to craft my current upgrade). A PoE replacement that embraced the zoom with few barriers between the player and fun. Any ARPG fans writing this off because lol-mobile-game or thinking it's p2w are doing themselves a major disservice.

I came to the realization that I could not stomach doing the act progression a third week in a row in PoE events so I loaded this up.

The season effect of shooting your main skill while moving is quite enjoyable as a ranged character. Enjoying it so far early in progression.

Gavinmad said:

You were right and Izo is talking out his ass. It's a fucking mobile game.

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How's it going with this not-mobile game?

Izo said:

How's it going with this not-mobile game?

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Wow this is incredibly embarassing.

For you.

This is one of those games where I'd 100% play if I could sit down at the PC 1 or 2 hours a day or something.

Yeah, I have to say I am enjoying my playthrough on this. It has enough of a hook that I am actually enjoying the grind.

The game takes a page from both PoE and mobile games in that it has a million currencies/shards and a million different mechanics that have "gear" attachments that affect and change the character. It is overly complex and somewhat inaccessible, but I've kind of hacked my way through it.

I tried to follow a build, then realized the set-up I already had was doing better DPS than the build so I just reverted back (lol).

I can honestly say that without the auto-attack effect of the pre-season I am not sure I would have liked this game as much.

Currently level 82 Hunter running Timemark 4 on the third unlocked area. I am definitely not going to be pushing millions of dps to endgame so this game definitely has an expiry date for me.

I've been loving this game. To me it's basically poe2, but with everything I want for QoL.
In game player guides to follow, DPS dummy in town, multiple attempts per map/boss, rarely any death on kill unless you stand in a pool, tier system goes to 0 as the highest, auction house(can list and buy from anywhere in game), deterministic crafting, plays extremely well on phone/tablet/PC. Takes like 1-2 hours to get through campaign and into the beginning of endgame farming. (I'm playing Mind control Youga2 and it's fully automated, just run and loot. Not all types can be fully automated), new season recently started, maps take ~30 seconds.

Only downside is pets are important and they are mostly p2w, but you can do well and have fun without them. Pets follow you and increase damage, drops for specific things/events, exp, etc. You can get free pet pulls in game from activities and an item you can buy from players on AH. League pass is kinda mandatory. Game is not as popular in US as other countries.

First season I've gone hard and I'm currently farming t8 profound comfortably and quick. Looking forward to deep space. Thumbs up all around for anyone put off by poe2, or currently waiting for better patch updates on poe2. There are usually a few builds per season that are cheaper to get to end game farming with, have to follow popular streamers for that info, and the discord chat is active with theory craft discussion.

Here is a new guide site, but you can also look up top people in game and follow their guides usually broken into DPS levels from the same player.



2 knowledgeable streamers:



2 Youga2 MC guides, helpful for lot of information, but I ended up following ShadyBroker in game:



Anyone else playing?

3 years late to the party, F Flaw