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Pharazon

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I dunno, that "yellow king" is wearing orange.

I watched through bits and pieces of episodes last night trying to convince myself that it can't be Marty. Instead of finding good reason why it can't be him, I only found more reasons why it might be him. In addition to the obvious questions about his daughter:

-Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time he is ever shown to be proactive about the case when not with Rust is when he follows that chick to go ask the guy at the rave where Ledoux is. Why? Because he wants Ledoux dead. Why would the yellow king want one of his trashbag cult brothers dead? Ledoux talked. He talked to his cellmate about their cult killings, and he talked about the yellow king. First rule about crazy satanic killing cult: Don't talk about crazy satanic killing cult. Second rule: Don't talk about the yellow king.

-Who else talked about the yellow king? The guy in prison who "killed himself" not long after he mentions him. Rust might have gotten him to tell him who the yellow king was if he hadn't uncharacteristically gone crazy and started wailing on him. But who called the prisoner so soon after he talked? The yellow king, because Rust told Marty this guy talked about the yellow king, and said he's still alive and killing. How else could the yellow king have known so quickly?

-When they go to visit the hooker ranch, Marty gets really upset about the young one there. But the hooker they talk to calls him out on this. She says he only cares that she's giving it up to other guys for money and that he is not the one in control. Above all, he wants to be in control. As long as he's in control, he doesn't care how young they are.

-The previous point leads into why he wastes the blond guy with Ledoux. He wanted Ledoux dead anyways, but its possible he knew the kids they took, maybe he liked the girl they had, and he was enraged they would take her without asking him. They took his control. The blond guy knew it was coming, he knew Marty.

-When Marty watches the tape, he isn't upset about what he sees. He's upset that the tape somehow got out. He stops it not because he can't bear watching, but because he's angry and he already knows what happens on it. "You shouldn't have this." He wants to convince Rust to destroy it.

-Pretty much throughout, Marty cooly plays down a lot of the leads or good ideas Rust has. He never shows too much emotion when Rust is onto something, but that is because Rust is still a long, long ways from getting him.

I hope there's nothing to all this, and that the governor or whoever is really the yellow king. Either way, it's pretty genius how they left open the possibility and gave just enough evidence to create doubt that it just might be Marty.
 

Lithose

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File is too large, but here is the screen cap.Harts painting - interesting subject matter - Imgur

Hart's daughter's painting, black stars rising. I hope they end up explaining all the stuff with his daughter. This little thing is obviously trivial, but some of the other stuff, like the hospital mural or the spiral drawing or the dolls? I'm hoping they don't just leave that hanging out there as red herrings (Or just clues for us to assume she was one of the kids drugged in school.)
 

Breakdown

Gunnar Durden
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I dunno, that "yellow king" is wearing orange.

I watched through bits and pieces of episodes last night trying to convince myself that it can't be Marty. Instead of finding good reason why it can't be him, I only found more reasons why it might be him. In addition to the obvious questions about his daughter:

-Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time he is ever shown to be proactive about the case when not with Rust is when he follows that chick to go ask the guy at the rave where Ledoux is. Why? Because he wants Ledoux dead. Why would the yellow king want one of his trashbag cult brothers dead? Ledoux talked. He talked to his cellmate about their cult killings, and he talked about the yellow king. First rule about crazy satanic killing cult: Don't talk about crazy satanic killing cult. Second rule: Don't talk about the yellow king.

-Who else talked about the yellow king? The guy in prison who "killed himself" not long after he mentions him. Rust might have gotten him to tell him who the yellow king was if he hadn't uncharacteristically gone crazy and started wailing on him. But who called the prisoner so soon after he talked? The yellow king, because Rust told Marty this guy talked about the yellow king, and said he's still alive and killing. How else could the yellow king have known so quickly?

-When they go to visit the hooker ranch, Marty gets really upset about the young one there. But the hooker they talk to calls him out on this. She says he only cares that she's giving it up to other guys for money and that he is not the one in control. Above all, he wants to be in control. As long as he's in control, he doesn't care how young they are.

-The previous point leads into why he wastes the blond guy with Ledoux. He wanted Ledoux dead anyways, but its possible he knew the kids they took, maybe he liked the girl they had, and he was enraged they would take her without asking him. They took his control. The blond guy knew it was coming, he knew Marty.

-When Marty watches the tape, he isn't upset about what he sees. He's upset that the tape somehow got out. He stops it not because he can't bear watching, but because he's angry and he already knows what happens on it. "You shouldn't have this." He wants to convince Rust to destroy it.

-Pretty much throughout, Marty cooly plays down a lot of the leads or good ideas Rust has. He never shows too much emotion when Rust is onto something, but that is because Rust is still a long, long ways from getting him.

I hope there's nothing to all this, and that the governor or whoever is really the yellow king. Either way, it's pretty genius how they left open the possibility and gave just enough evidence to create doubt that it just might be Marty.
Holy shit, you dont have to hope that there is nothing to that, because everything you said is utter bullshit that makes no sense and takes massive leaps in logic.
 

Chukzombi

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yeah i thought all the "Hart/Rust is the YK!" wankers fucked off after this last episode. gotta give props to Pharazon for his persistence.
 

Soygen

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I think Pharazon is correct on all assumptions. May as well not even tune in on Sunday.
 

Royal

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File is too large, but here is the screen cap.Harts painting - interesting subject matter - Imgur

Hart's daughter's painting, black stars rising. I hope they end up explaining all the stuff with his daughter. This little thing is obviously trivial, but some of the other stuff, like the hospital mural or the spiral drawing or the dolls? I'm hoping they don't just leave that hanging out there as red herrings (Or just clues for us to assume she was one of the kids drugged in school.)
More than just black stars ...

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Like I've said before, I think all of this recurring imagery is just a way of reinforcing the whole life is a flat circle concept for those who examine the show in such minute detail. I wouldn't hold my breath for any sort of resolution on that front.

For another ... "interesting" take on some of the imagery ...

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Kirun

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I dunno, that "yellow king" is wearing orange.

I watched through bits and pieces of episodes last night trying to convince myself that it can't be Marty. Instead of finding good reason why it can't be him, I only found more reasons why it might be him. In addition to the obvious questions about his daughter:

-Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time he is ever shown to be proactive about the case when not with Rust is when he follows that chick to go ask the guy at the rave where Ledoux is. Why? Because he wants Ledoux dead. Why would the yellow king want one of his trashbag cult brothers dead? Ledoux talked. He talked to his cellmate about their cult killings, and he talked about the yellow king. First rule about crazy satanic killing cult: Don't talk about crazy satanic killing cult. Second rule: Don't talk about the yellow king.

-Who else talked about the yellow king? The guy in prison who "killed himself" not long after he mentions him. Rust might have gotten him to tell him who the yellow king was if he hadn't uncharacteristically gone crazy and started wailing on him. But who called the prisoner so soon after he talked? The yellow king, because Rust told Marty this guy talked about the yellow king, and said he's still alive and killing. How else could the yellow king have known so quickly?

-When they go to visit the hooker ranch, Marty gets really upset about the young one there. But the hooker they talk to calls him out on this. She says he only cares that she's giving it up to other guys for money and that he is not the one in control. Above all, he wants to be in control. As long as he's in control, he doesn't care how young they are.

-The previous point leads into why he wastes the blond guy with Ledoux. He wanted Ledoux dead anyways, but its possible he knew the kids they took, maybe he liked the girl they had, and he was enraged they would take her without asking him. They took his control. The blond guy knew it was coming, he knew Marty.

-When Marty watches the tape, he isn't upset about what he sees. He's upset that the tape somehow got out. He stops it not because he can't bear watching, but because he's angry and he already knows what happens on it. "You shouldn't have this." He wants to convince Rust to destroy it.

-Pretty much throughout, Marty cooly plays down a lot of the leads or good ideas Rust has. He never shows too much emotion when Rust is onto something, but that is because Rust is still a long, long ways from getting him.

I hope there's nothing to all this, and that the governor or whoever is really the yellow king. Either way, it's pretty genius how they left open the possibility and gave just enough evidence to create doubt that it just might be Marty.
I caught zero logic in all that. And that last bit? Pure gibberish.
 

Fedor

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The Creator Debunks Your Craziest Theories

Let?s begin with the ending of Episode 7, when we see Errol, who is, or had better be, the Spaghetti Monster. How did you build to that moment, and why did you decide to end the episode on that note?

Nic Pizzolatto:Going into the final episode, I wanted to end any audience theorizing that Cohle or Hart was the killer, and also provide a concrete face to the abstract evil they?re chasing.
I don't think Nic expected how many retards would watch his show.
 

Soygen

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jesus christ, Lost has truly built a generation of morons.
The absolute worst part of all of that is that Lost didn't connect any of the dots or explain any of the crazy links between stuff. You would think that alone would make people not read so much into things.