Trump or Hillary - FOH Poll

Hillary's going to win anyway, so you've nothing to worry about, Portlandia.

Picasso3 said:

He'll get into office and implement strong oversights on the media and we'll be well on our way to greatness.

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"Oversight on the media?" What the fuck? What does this involve? The media has a 1st Amendment right to be liberal biased if it wants to.

Quineloe said:

How does your wife feel about the US Cavalry that shot to death little Indian children in the 19th century to make Lebensraum for the United States?

Or did she conveniently only learn about other countries' genocides?

And it is you who brought up the genocide thing. I'm sure you meant to equate "Half moon cave men" with *all* muslims, not just the terrorists that can't live in peace?

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Dude not even close to the same.

We had like Manifest Destiny and shit.

Picasso3 said:

He'll get into office and implement strong oversights on the media and we'll be well on our way to greatness.

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Greatness post deserves swastika rating or at least a star from Sterling.

The main argument FOR Hillary really does seem to be fear. Devil you know sort of stuff. Ehh, I get that.

And that can be a persusaive argument. Until you reach the point where fear of the unknown is clearly outpaced by the devil you know.

Maybe if that really was all there was to it.

If we lose either way then I'd rather let Trump fuck up for 4 years. Maybe some good can come out of it at the party level. If Hillary gets elected it does nothing but affirm the democratic party's primary structure. Every last one of you saw exactly how corrupt and insider that process is. But that's not surprising. Even the hypocrisy of "The Republican Party is the party of I'm Next" in regards to nominations isn't surprising. What's surprising is how vehemently it's defended by people who have no stake in it whatsoever.

Now the next Republican primary is going to be the exact same thing, it's going to be the exact same way. That's why Republicans DO operate on a "I'm next" principle when it comes to their candidates for President. It stops the ugly spectacle of Bernie/Hillary from happening so publicly. These things are decided before they matter, and just as importantly the men so consented are GROOMED for the positions they will need to take. It's specifically how Rmoney ruined the party, by breaking that process beyond repair. But Trump hasn't fixed that, and he won't, but the power men didn't even realize it was broken. Now they know, and that fight is going to happen again and it is going to be a horrible internal fight that doesn't have a lot to do with the federal organization. It also means that, by responding with authoritarianism as I'm absolutely sure they will, the power cabals within the party have gotten the message. We can hope, and it's all we can do right now, that they will be more considerate of the welfare of their base next time.

We're gonna have to fight this Trump fight next time too. By electing Hillary you are, and i'm not being hyperbolic, basically ceding your right to vote to your party leadership. You will vote for who you are told to vote for. A vote for Hillary is empirical proof of that theory.

Well you can do what you like to do. I do understand that the internal workings of the federal republican party are probably pretty low on a Hillary supporters list of things to give a fuck about. And that's fine. But that initial idea (devil you know) is a significant portion of the argument which it seems to be gets no consideration. I don't find it persuasive. I don't understand how any reasonable person does. Fear is not reason, it is an emotion.

I'm actually becoming more and more afraid of a hildog president. She is an aggressive bitch, with something to prove to start with. Secondly, this altar of globalism bullshit is going down the tubes, people everywhere are waking up and finding out they don't like it. Could be that another trick in the bag for the globalists is a major war to get everyone back in line.

consensus said:

I have come to conclude that we need Hillary as president.

I am playing 4D chess.

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Hillary is going to win. Get used to it. Avatar bets right here. @consensus you lovable asian frog. Avatar bets.

Sylas said:

of all the crazy from trump this is the one thing i can definitely get behind.

Freedom of the press is the freedom to share news, facts, to ensure you have an educated population. That's the purpose of it, anyway. Bias is one thing, but for the last decade and especially the last several years the "news" has become nothing but outright lies and fabrications. The internet, with an assist from 24 hour cable news, killed journalism, and SJWs destroyed their ethics and integrity. I'm fine with the courts finishing off the institutions and journalists themselves.

I wholeheartedly support Trump's desire to strengthen libel and slander laws, to the point that anytime one of those pieces of shit opens their mouth and tries painting a false narrative they open themselves up to immediate hulk hogan level lawsuits by anyone, without the requirement of the billionaire backing your suit.

100 million dollars per infraction until the blue hairs and hate pundits are eating out of trash bins should resolve the current culture war rather quickly.

One caveat, of course, is Op/Ed. If you are going to run a story about someone's opinion, that article should be clearly labeled in 40 point font across the top and bottom that it is an opinion, and not the news. It should be written as an opinion piece, and not stated as fact. This applies to all blogs as well. It removes it as a valid source for citation, it's just one random assholes opinion on something. It's not "press" and shouldn't enjoy the protection that press is provided, like press shield laws, etc

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I'll be the first to give you the like you desire.

Fuck you and your bullshit rant. Take your crack, run with it, and call ScreamCo in the morning. You faggot Sylas fuckass faggot.

Libel and slander. Get the fuck out of here you internet blue hair anonymous fuck. Read a fucking book you faggot piece of shit.

Sylas if you were the one being talked about, would you sue?

If so then you are the biggest faggot I have ever encountered.

Fuck you. Faggot. Piece of shit. Die in a horrible fire.

I would never sue you, you faggot fire-dying faggot. Go move to France and marry a burkini bitch you fag.

Hillary am Dem

Sylas said:

of all the crazy from trump this is the one thing i can definitely get behind.

Spoiler

Freedom of the press is the freedom to share news, facts, to ensure you have an educated population. That's the purpose of it, anyway. Bias is one thing, but for the last decade and especially the last several years the "news" has become nothing but outright lies and fabrications. The internet, with an assist from 24 hour cable news, killed journalism, and SJWs destroyed their ethics and integrity. I'm fine with the courts finishing off the institutions and journalists themselves.

I wholeheartedly support Trump's desire to strengthen libel and slander laws, to the point that anytime one of those pieces of shit opens their mouth and tries painting a false narrative they open themselves up to immediate hulk hogan level lawsuits by anyone, without the requirement of the billionaire backing your suit.

100 million dollars per infraction until the blue hairs and hate pundits are eating out of trash bins should resolve the current culture war rather quickly.

One caveat, of course, is Op/Ed. If you are going to run a story about someone's opinion, that article should be clearly labeled in 40 point font across the top and bottom that it is an opinion, and not the news. It should be written as an opinion piece, and not stated as fact. This applies to all blogs as well. It removes it as a valid source for citation, it's just one random assholes opinion on something. It's not "press" and shouldn't enjoy the protection that press is provided, like press shield laws, etc

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I agree. I wish there was more to get on board with.

consensus said:

what is your alcohol level.

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Not enough to glower down these reverse virtue signalling faggots, my little green skinned friend.

I cannot get behind this. Everyone has a right to say whatever stupid shit they want, even more so with the internet. To slap people with legal infractions? Are you serious.

What you said Sylas is as democratic as a brown dick inside your Philly sandwich. It might fit in the bun, son, but it ain't right. There are other ways to avoid dicks. Think about it.

Agraza said:

Hillary am Dem



I agree. I wish there was more to get on board with.

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You should go back to Russia.

Not standing up for what I disagree with, I'm standing up for your right to piss me off.

No. The only reason trump thinks it's a good idea is because he's a crybaby with tiny hands. I want accountability and regulation in the press as well. But it has to be of the self variety.

Welcome to the internet. These institutions have to be concerned with their credibility. Legislating credibility will have the exact opposite effect. he'll realize that once he asks one of his smart people.

If they have decided to abdicate their responsibility, and it seems like they have, then we just have to figure out something that doesn't involve them. We don't have to pretend that they are providing a service which they are not.

They die if you don't click their bait. Don't feed the troll IRL.

Quineloe said:

How does your wife feel about the US Cavalry that shot to death little Indian children in the 19th century to make Lebensraum for the United States?

Or did she conveniently only learn about other countries' genocides?

And it is you who brought up the genocide thing. I'm sure you meant to equate "Half moon cave men" with *all* muslims, not just the terrorists that can't live in peace?

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Just to be clear if Jesus came over and said he'd give me a freebie and kill all murderous muslims in the middle east with no collateral damage I'd say sure.

If you came over and said I need 14 trillion dollars and no oversight and me and I'll my aryan brothers will eliminate all radicals that is where i draw caution.

Which one of those do you think is the realistic scenario?

The 1 big difference I can see between our national genocide is I seem to think it's not a good solution whereas you do.

Kind of curious seeing how ours worked out fine and yours.. not so much.

Picasso3 said:

The 1 big difference I can see between our national genocide is I seem to think it's not a good solution whereas you do.

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Is that your general stereotype against all Germans or did you perceive me stating anything like this (because I know for certainty you cannot possibly quote me on this)