Vanessa's Tranny AMA Blog Thread
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Yeah, I've been to a few pride parades. The only one I found to be over the top was actually in San Francisco. I don't think there's anything wrong with saying "We're gay and we're going to show you how much pride we have for being gay." especially given the history there. Very recent history, actually.
You act as if the only way to victory is to win over the most extreme. Yes, there's an extreme that you'll never be able to reach. But there's a much larger group in the middle who doesn't even understand the argument, they just see screeching and lulz. If the argument is that these children need an advocate, then the only ethical thing to do is to be that advocate. Just giving up and trolling is no longer really caring about those children, the actual subject of this debate, it's just vanity. More virtue signalling.
I'm interested in your idea of how this is even possible without being attacked by the lunatic outrage mob, and I'm also interested in why you think this is a problem we need to solve instead of the community it is taking part in.
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That's like asking why don't we just have the slaveowners solve this nasty problem of slavery. Either it's an emergent moral and ethical issue involving children who need an advocate for their welfare, or it's just masturbation. If the objective is to just sit around with your forum bros and be outraged, I really don't see the point.
Was there an answer to either of my questions in here? Because I'm failing to see one.
No, you didn't. You spouted some nonsense about slavery (wat) and completely failed to explain why it is our responsibility and not the community that is pushing for it. We have no say in the actions of these kids or the people pushing them to do what they're doing because we're attacked for even talking about it. And until you have an answer to the other question: Do us a favour and stop telling people what they should be doing while also completely ignoring every single contextual element of the issue and why they are reacting to the issue the way they are.
If the larger group in the middle you've spoken about would stop being such fucking cowards and speak up about the issues like us "trolls" then maybe we could do something about it. But as it stands, all they're doing is hiding their heads in the sand while telling us that we're overreacting, and that we need to be more tolerant and reasonable, all the while there's a drag-child standing behind them gasping in mock surprise about the naked drag-queen's dick.
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I'm not going to gay up the thread but it's hardly only in SF. You've not tried hard enough if you think SF is the only place with a pride parade like that. In a country that cannot remember what happened last week, I'm not sure what you mean by "very recent history".
I also never said there's anything wrong with saying "We're gay and we're going to show you how much pride we have for being gay." I just said this is entirely unnecessary in 2019. Gays have every right as any other in this country, and they've won every single thing they have fought for. Even society is accepting of gays at this point. Oh sure, some people are going to be bigoted, but there's bigoted people in every facet. It's unreasonable to expect 100% approval in anything.
You mean like Mario Lopez tried to do? You mean like the countless other people who have been fired, harassed, or shunned for trying? Jordan Peterson types?
Sorry Chaos bro. I'm glad you're posting again, but you're really wrong here. You're talking like no one has already tried this. They have, countless people have, and they have all been shut down by the transgender mob, backed by the platform companies. Youtube will demonetize or ban you. Facebook will remove your post. Twitter will ban you. It's just all so tiresome. And alas, you get a troll job.
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If you actually give a shit about the children, then yeah, it's your responsibility to advocate for the kids. If you just want to posture and virtue signal, then nah, no big deal, someone else will take care of it for sure but make sure to let everyone know that you think. After all, that's the important thing, right?
You are calling the middle cowards while you say "Why even bother trying! We'll be attacked!" I remember when the right used to have some balls. But whatever, it's only kids being experimented on by unethical doctors and ignorant adults. Make sure you send out a tweet with your outrage, like and subscribe and click that bell bro.
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I'm not a part of the right, so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Political ideology wasn't even a part of the conversation.
You: Protect the kids and stand up for them!
Me: I can't, my life can literally be ruined for doing so. Maybe you should talk to the people abusing these kids or help convince people who are standing on the sidelines to speak up.
You: You have no balls! Fight it alone and without everyone else, while I stand by and criticize you! It's your problem even though you have no actual part in it!
Me: Go fuck yourself.
I'd also like to thank you for confirming my suspicions that you're a clown that can't actually support his arguments and just resorts to throwing shit.
It's all so fucking tiresome.
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I mean, I haven't been to every pride parade in the world, I'm just saying, I've been to a few and only at one did I really see over the top antics etc. And I don't agree that it's unnecessary.
I've seen some of that, although I don't agree with lumping in "person refuses to use gender pronouns" with academics harassed for research. You're posting this as if there's no conservative, or indeed political, presence on these platforms. There's tons of content on every one of those platforms about all sorts of right wing issues. I've seen people on both sides getting demonetized or taken down etc, sometimes it's warranted and sometimes it's shitty. But I just don't think it's an excuse to give up.
I'm only just now learning about this. I never did anything or said anything before, because I thought it was all a bunch of bullshit fearmongering. It never occurred to me that "let's drug children and change how they grow" would be a real thing that doctors would allow to happen. I think the first, and probably most important, thing to do is speak out when possible in a way that shows compassion both for the kids themselves and for the adults who want to act ethically but just don't know what to do or whatever the case is. I'm trying to give people the benefit of the doubt that they aren't just evil. And support platforms, especially outside of political silos, that talk about this issue honestly. I've seen a couple of left wing guys on youtube talking about how they don't even approach certain issues critical of the left because they get nothing but shit in response, those type of issues come up because people fail to actively support people or platforms, the only response they get is negative. I don't really think there should be legislative action beyond encouraging academic study of these issues to properly arm doctors and parents with objective information, I don't know how that works though, my neighbor's a state senator, planned on asking him about that.
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Political ideology isn't the focus, but it's definitely a part of it. In that it colors the debate, it colors the view of social media, mainstream media (or what even mainstream is), etc. But you're right, I made an assumption, sorry about that.
But yeah, it is your problem, if it's a problem then it's all of our problem. Yours and mine and the people involved and the people on the sideline etc. If we owe nothing else to each other and society it is to defend people incapable of defending themselves. What that means in practice doesn't necessarily involve confrontation, but it certainly involves more than just sitting back and hoping that the people perpetrating the action will fix it themselves.
Between the two of us, I'm the only one that is suggesting something even remotely close to a solution. You're just standing by and criticizing it because you think it's a joke, while providing nothing that resembles a course of action.
Also, you're completely misunderstanding me asking you to provide a reason why the kids are our problem. It's not because I don't think it's also our problem, it's that you're laying the problem at our feet while completely avoiding any and all mention of it being a problem for the lunatics to face, or the people standing on the sidelines.
You're so fucking twisted up into your distaste for the idea of straight pride that you've managed to argue yourself into a place where the mere idea of placing the blame where it belongs doesn't seem to occur to you. "Just be more tolerant." Motherfucker, that's how we've gotten to this place to begin with. We can't just put an end to this level of lunacy without violence, so the only course of action is to counter it with something else which devalues it to the point it can no longer serve as an unassailable position, and this can be done by motivating the "middle group" via giving them a safe point of entry by letting them celebrate who they are instead of thinking it can only be done by LGBTXXZZYYSQQAAH's. Then maybe we can protect the kids while still allowing the clowns that live their lives based on their sexuality still be the fetish freaks that they are.
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Your "proposed solution" is that it's not your problem so you'll bitch about it on the internet. That isn't a solution. I don't have a perfect solution but what I do have is better than that.
I never said that the people perpetrating it aren't responsible for it, you're projecting. I said it doesn't matter. You're acting like our responsibility ends at assigning blame. That's a shitty way to be in society.If you come into the conversation with your hands already in the air saying "welp violence is the only solution", I really don't see how you can claim a moral highground or even to really care about the issue. My distaste for the idea of straight pride ends basically at the point where I think it's dumb, the rest of this shit doesn't really have anything to do with it.
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It's not an excuse to give up but less and less people will be willing to "fight the fight" when they are being treated like that, which means they are winning. They have the backing of the corporate establishments now, which is hilarious and something 20 years ago I'd never guess.
Pretty sure we knew that's where it was headed. My line of thinking at the time is that when you don't flat out shut down, as a society, fringe elements that push narratives like this, they go more and more and more and push more and more and more until society does that. We've been saying for years now that normalization of pedophilia is next, and while it's not fully here yet, you have children going to drag queen story hours and calling people like Desmond "brave" and "stunning" as he does a drag dance in front of a bunch of gay guys in a gay bar as they throw money at him. You have stories and stories on how pedophilia is normal, and nothing to be ashamed about. This is going to desensitize and normalize this behavior to the younger children growing up to the point where pedophilia will become more and more normalized and eventually it will happen. Mark my words. Unless an adult steps up to the task and somehow mythically gets through to these fringe elements, our grandchildren are going to be dealing with this threat.
I want you to look at this editorial, as this if what we're up against, Chaos, and I want to reply to 3 points to it:
Letter to the Editor: Protestors, not the event, to blame for costs at drag queen story hour
In regard to the Letter to the Editor on July 31, "Library's drag queen story hour should not have taken place," I would like to comment that it
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What does a "Drag Queen Story Hour" in a public library marketed to children have to do with LGBTQ in general?
Yeah, and yet you sure like to force specific people to bake cakes don't you? And #WaxMyBalls, right? Hypocritical garbage here. LGBTQ rights are no more or less than Christian rights, or they should be. If the Christians wanted to protest like this, they have every right to.
Oh, sure. Just some person from the community sharing stories with children. Uh huh. He declined to say that the drag queen was a well known member of Antifa in the area. The agenda is clear, and it's an attempt to normalize sexual behaviors at a very, very young age. It has nothing to do with reading stories to children.
That's fine, but unfortunately you're going to find out the moment you do, evil that you thought didn't exist will come and bite you, because part of the help and ways to be compassionate to these people is to make them understand the fantasy they are addicted to and want isn't reality. This isn't the case for everyone, but for a lot it is. It's like tough love, but they will fight you on it.
That's correct, and its even worse if you're on the right and try. You could even be a huge ally, but the moment you step out of line you're used goods and will be trampled by the mob. How many times have you seen someone who is a darling of the left fuck up once and get ruined? Happens a lot. They will constantly eat their own.
You can bet your ass these things are moving toward legislative action.
Doctors won't speak up and when they do...
Child Psychology Prof. Effectively Fired For Opposing Transgenderism Fights Back
Expert demoted for opposing child sterilization.
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They pay the price.
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chaos
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You say "normalize sexual behaviors" like that's a bad thing. The concept of homosexuality should be normalized. And you're bringing up cakes, why? That shit was decided. Of course christians have the right to protest. I read your response to this and it just seems like butthurt. What is the specific problem with a drag queen reading to children? Am I missing something, was he reading gay porn to the kids?I want you to look at this editorial, as this if what we're up against, Chaos, and I want to reply to 3 points to it:
Letter to the Editor: Protestors, not the event, to blame for costs at drag queen story hour
In regard to the Letter to the Editor on July 31, "Library's drag queen story hour should not have taken place," I would like to comment that it
What does a "Drag Queen Story Hour" in a public library marketed to children have to do with LGBTQ in general?
Yeah, and yet you sure like to force specific people to bake cakes don't you? And #WaxMyBalls, right? Hypocritical garbage here. LGBTQ rights are no more or less than Christian rights, or they should be. If the Christians wanted to protest like this, they have every right to.
Oh, sure. Just some person from the community sharing stories with children. Uh huh. He declined to say that the drag queen was a well known member of Antifa in the area. The agenda is clear, and it's an attempt to normalize sexual behaviors at a very, very young age. It has nothing to do with reading stories to children.
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