Volkswagen gets busted.

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Itzena_sl

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Well...technicallyyesif you mean total emissions rather than exhaust emissions. It's still fractions of what an ICE-powered vehicle puts out, though.
 

Luthair

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Diesel will still be the only option in some countries. Try driving around south america or parts of africa without a diesel. There are places where I don't think they even fucking sell regular gas. But diesel in places like the states on things that aren't semis or serious work trucks? The death toll is ringing.

This is also going to be a legal nightmare for VW. The US caught them, but I doubt the EU is going to give VW a free pass for this. Additionally, there will probably be some class action false advertisement suits that arise from this, along with a huge shock to the brand name that will take a while to sort out. 20% cap seems a bit light on the impact side. I wouldn't be surprised to see VW slide even more in the coming months.
Apparently the EU doesn't have as strict regulations on nitrous oxides which are the problem here. Apparently this is also why in NA we don't see the 40-50 mpg diesels.

Diesel was just starting to improve its reputation after memories started fade from the black smoke era, I imagine they're dead here for another 20-30 years.
 

Picasso3

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This should be way worse than gm knowingly allowing a ten cent part to kill people for 5+ years.
 

Picasso3

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I think the final toll was like 50 at around 3 billion to settle, all while the ceo is getting 10 mill a year in compensation? Not looking it up but I'm confident it's fubar
 

Heian

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I think this will force VW to adopt or push the electric car much faster than they planned. They could probably afford the fine but in the end they will simply pay a % of it just like the apple/samsung case.

What that really interest me is how they will find the way to fix all those cars. The easy fix is that they could probably play in the software but this will impact the performance. How will the current owner react to it? They might come with an interesting work around and I'm really curious to find out.

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While I agree that this is really bad I do find it sad that an EPA lie look way worse than those life lost by GM scandal. I really don't get it.
 

TJT

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I think the final toll was like 50 at around 3 billion to settle, all while the ceo is getting 10 mill a year in compensation? Not looking it up but I'm confident it's fubar
For GM? Fine was $927M and current CEO has only been with the company for a few years.
 

Big Phoenix

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I wonder how many people died while congress was trying to scold Toyota over "mysterious" acceleration.

This just seems like a continuation of that, shitty politics protecting shitty American companies. These pollution standards have zero to due with health and everything to due with keeping better performing cars out of this country so shity companies like GM dont die a second time.

Wonder what happened to this retard?

Runaway Prius May Stay a Mystery: NHTSA | NBC 7 San Diego
 

Cinge

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Ouch. Will be interesting to see which cost them more fines from government agencies or people suing for being mis-lead/false advertisement. Especially as this wasn't some faulty part or oversight.
 

Palum

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I wonder how many people died while congress was trying to scold Toyota over "mysterious" acceleration.

This just seems like a continuation of that, shitty politics protecting shitty American companies. These pollution standards have zero to due with health and everything to due with keeping better performing cars out of this country so shity companies like GM dont die a second time.

Wonder what happened to this retard?

Runaway Prius May Stay a Mystery: NHTSA | NBC 7 San Diego
He was killed some three days later when his shopping cart, unable to brake, collided with a decorative display stack of Coca Cola 12 packs.
 

Palum

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Ouch. Will be interesting to see which cost them more fines from government agencies or people suing for being mis-lead/false advertisement. Especially as this wasn't some faulty part or oversight.
Already one lawyer is starting a class action suit.

There's no way they don't get screwed for this one.
 

Hoss

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How will the current owner react to it? They might come with an interesting work around and I'm really curious to find out.
Current owner here and I do have a curious work around. I'm not going to take it in for the recall. If we take it in for other service and they do it despite us telling them not to, that's when we might consider suing.

Wife and I had a good chuckle about the whole thing this morning.
 

Palum

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What if it gets re-rated as not meeting EPA guidelines and you cannot register the car without a recall?
 

Heian

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I own a 6th gen GTI and after 5 years and 170 000 km I still like it very much. I was poking fun to my coworkers that have TDI today. Their reaction sounded like yours.
 

Ronaan

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So the cars need to pass a set testing cycle in order to be allowed on the road.
VW builds cars that pass the testing cycle.
No problem right? trololololol.jpg

German minister of traffic announced they'll be looking into this. I see VW stock taking another huge dive.

Make sure to testeverycar though. I wonder what the footprint of the popular US and Japanese made cars look like. Gasoline or Diesel, test everything.

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