Weight Loss Thread

Olscratch · Sep 24, 2014

Warmuth_sl said:
You could eat 1300 calories of cane sugar a day and lose weight. That's very, very low calorie. Like 12 year old girl calories. Generally that sort of diet is going to catch up to you.

Riiiight I'm trying to lose weight fast without getting diabeetus.
My point was:
Eating 1350 of balanced diet I felt like SHIT and was hungry all day while losing weight.
Eating 1350 of 65% fat 30% protein 5% carbs I feel righteous, never hungry, and dropping weight even faster.

Warmuth · Sep 24, 2014

Scratch_sl said:
Riiiight I'm trying to lose weight fast without getting diabeetus.
My point was:
Eating 1350 of balanced diet I felt like SHIT and was hungry all day while losing weight.
Eating 1350 of 65% fat 30% protein 5% carbs I feel righteous, never hungry, and dropping weight even faster.

Yeah thats great and keep on keepin on but my point is that 1300 is a pretty severe restriction that almost no one would reccomend.

McCheese · Sep 24, 2014

I eat 1300 calories of pixie stix a day.

Leadsalad · Sep 25, 2014

McCheese_sl said:
I eat 1300 calories of pixie stix a day.

And then....?

Ossoi · Sep 25, 2014

Scratch_sl said:
Riiiight I'm trying to lose weight fast without getting diabeetus.
My point was:
Eating 1350 of balanced diet I felt like SHIT and was hungry all day while losing weight.
Eating 1350 of 65% fat 30% protein 5% carbs I feel righteous, never hungry, and dropping weight even faster.

you'll be losing muscle as well as fat, which is not a good thing.

You could jack your calories up to 1800-2000 and still lose weight.

Olscratch · Sep 25, 2014

Ossoi_sl said:
you'll be losing muscle as well as fat, which is not a good thing.

You could jack your calories up to 1800-2000 and still lose weight.

Yeah I feel like I'd be burning muscle too had I not gone keto. Worked out last night and hadn't lost any strength. My maintenance cal is 2300. At 2k I'd only be losing half lb a week. Thats filthy casual territory.

Noodleface · Sep 25, 2014

Went to the gym last week at 225. Weighed myself last night at 237. Granted this was after a large deep dish pizza.

Either I am Ronnie Coleman or I done fucked up.

Deathwing · Sep 25, 2014

NoodleAnus_sl said:
Went to the gym last week at 225. Weighed myself last night at 237. Granted this was after a large deep dish pizza.

Either I am Ronnie Coleman or I done fucked up.

You fucked up. Any good engineer knows the best methodology eliminates as many variables from the equation. Weigh yourself at the same time every day. Do it after going piss. Don't do it after eating. Put all those together and your best time to accurately track weight trends is in the morning after taking a piss. If you don't shit every day(like me), only weigh yourself on days where you took a shit the previous evening.

Ossoi · Sep 25, 2014

Scratch_sl said:
Yeah I feel like I'd be burning muscle too had I not gone keto. Worked out last night and hadn't lost any strength. My maintenance cal is 2300. At 2k I'd only be losing half lb a week. Thats filthy casual territory.

lol please, keto is not some magical state that only burns fat. Multiple people are telling you 1300 calories is a stupidly low amount for a grown man to eat. I'm similar height/weight (but 100% certain lower bf and more muscle mass) and I lost weight just fine on 1800-2100 calories.

At 1300 calories you are definitely losing muscle as well as fat, it's just a question of how much.

Noodleface · Sep 25, 2014

Deathwing_sl said:
You fucked up. Any good engineer knows the best methodology eliminates as many variables from the equation. Weigh yourself at the same time every day. Do it after going piss. Don't do it after eating. Put all those together and your best time to accurately track weight trends is in the morning after taking a piss. If you don't shit every day(like me), only weigh yourself on days where you took a shit the previous evening.

Yeah I do weigh myself once a week in the morning to keep track of trends. I was at my mother in laws last night after dinner and figured I'd check out the damage. When I saw 237 I was like "hmm", as I have never been that heavy. The only problem is who the fuck gains 12 pounds in a week?

Deathwing · Sep 25, 2014

Water/shit retention? If your diet changed radically that week, like Xarpolis' did when he visited Japan, I guess I could see most of the 12 pounds being temporary.

BrotherWu · Sep 25, 2014

Also, relative quality of scales can be a huge variable. Before I spent money on a good scale, I had a crappy digital one that could vary by 5 pounds just stepping off and back on.

Use the same scale, at the same time of of day, on the same day, after taking your morning piss and/or dump, but before eating. Also, I have switched to weighing in about once every few weeks because that gives you a better idea of the longer trend.

Eomer · Sep 25, 2014

NoodleAnus_sl said:
Yeah I do weigh myself once a week in the morning to keep track of trends. I was at my mother in laws last night after dinner and figured I'd check out the damage. When I saw 237 I was like "hmm", as I have never been that heavy. The only problem is who the fuck gains 12 pounds in a week?

I can easily manage that on a destination wedding at an all inclusive. But seriously, weigh yourself on a regular basis, first thing in the morning after taking a piss if you want to track trends in your weight accurately. It can be very enlightening and help you see where you're fucking up, or making progress.

As far as the "longer trend" goes, just create an account here and input your weight on a regular basis, and it'll track is all for you:The Hacker's Diet Online: Please Sign In

Khane · Sep 25, 2014

I had food poisoning last night. Lots of vomit. Was 6 lbs lighter this morning. Booyah.

Olscratch · Sep 25, 2014

Ossoi_sl said:
lol please, keto is not some magical state that only burns fat.

Yes actually it is. Keto is pure fucking fat burning magic. What's your source?

Here's mine:
Metabolic Effects of the Very-Low-Carbohydrate Diets: Misunderstood "Villains" of Human Metabolism
"Also, the recent landmark study showed that a very-low-carbohydrate diet resulted in a significant reduction in fat mass and a concomitant increase in lean body mass in normal-weight men. "

Nutrition & Metabolism | Full text | Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
"A VLCARB is almost always relatively high in protein.
During weight loss, higher protein intake reduces loss of muscle mass and increases loss of body fat"

Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
"Simply stated, ketone body metabolism by the brain displaces glucose utilization and thus spares muscle mass."

Ketogenic diet does not affect strength performance in elite artistic gymnasts
No significant differences were detected between VLCKD and WD in all strength tests. Significant differences were found in body weight and body composition: after VLCKD there was a decrease in body weight (from 69.6 ? 7.3 Kg to 68.0 ? 7.5 Kg) and fat mass (from 5.3 ? 1.3 Kg to 3.4 ? 0.8 Kg p < 0.001) with a non-significant increase in muscle mass.

I can literally find you 100 sources saying keto is pure magic and spares muscles even at low caloric consumption. Care for more?

Ossoi · Sep 25, 2014

oh great, a keto zealot...I've had some interesting encounters with keto zealots on reddit over the past week.

At 1300 calories a day, you are definitely losing muscle as well as fat. -newsflash, you are not on a low carbohydrate diet, you are on a low carbohydrate stupidly-low calorie diet.

Ossoi · Sep 25, 2014

Scratch_sl said:
Here's mine:

Nutrition & Metabolism | Full text | Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
"A VLCARB is almost always relatively high in protein.
During weight loss, higher protein intake reduces loss of muscle mass and increases loss of body fat"

Very-low-carbohydrate diets and preservation of muscle mass
"Simply stated, ketone body metabolism by the brain displaces glucose utilization and thus spares muscle mass."

I can literally find you 100 sources saying keto is pure magic and spares muscles even at low caloric consumption. Care for more?

Well you've posted 2 different links to the same study - so I doubt that you have 100 separate sources.

REGARDLESS, nobody here, certainly not me, will contest that keto is good for weight loss. What I, and others have pointed out, is that your calorie intake is closer to that of a teenage girl, rather than a healthy adult male.

Ambiturner · Sep 25, 2014

Depends on how lean you are and how much muscle you have. You can lose muscle on keto, but most people dieting are too fat and don't have enough make for it to be much of a concern

Ossoi · Sep 25, 2014

We're not talking about most people, we're talking about the adult male that thinks 1300 calories is a sensible amount to consume

Fifey · Sep 25, 2014

During our morning meeting today, we got on the topic of weight loss cause a guy I work with has to lose 40lbs to even be operated on. The fat girl in the office pulled the "I have to eat 1100 calories a day to even start to lose weight" excuse, took every inch of willpower to not say anything.

In McCheese related news, I ordered dominoes and crushed out a thing of cinnastix, 16 parmesa bites, and a medium pizza. I don't know how you do it, I still feel like death.

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