Going to start a new weight loss program but reading through this thread it makes me wonder what's going on with the moderation here. This could be a very useful tool but right now it's like the politics thread crossed with bro science and a few reasonable voices being drowned out by trolls.
The moderation is fine. There is a ton of great advice in this thread if you take the time to read through it all. You're right in a way to compare it to the politics thread, because everyone will never agree on the best way to lose weight and get in shape; everyone's body and lifestyles are different and different things work for different people. What do you expect from this community with this kind of divisive topic?
Take the two above examples by Deathwing and Denaut:
Denaut has a relatively extreme view towards diet by avoiding all sugar and cutting out all processed foods. I did this for a while and it worked incredibly well to help me lose weight, but it isn't for everyone. I stopped simply because it didn't fit into my lifestyle of going out to restaurants a lot and enjoying high quality beer once or twice a week.
Deathwing has a less severe (but arguably less "healthy") view towards diet which accounts for drinking sugary stuff, eating processed foods occasionally, and allowing yourself to enjoy a more typical "American" diet. This also works very well if you stick to it.
Then you have Dashel and his pseudo-paleo diet, which is clearly working well for him given his reports here.
Decide what sort of diet fits into your lifestyle and pair it with some solid weight training at the gym to maintain muscle mass. If you are consistent with both of those you
willlose weight and you
willlook much better (i.e avoid the ugly skinnyfat trap that cardio freaks tend to fall into).
*Edit*
So that's one person that says Body Fat % is stupid and another that pays attention to BMI.
I never said body fat percentage is stupid. I said
focusing on it too muchis silly. At the end of the day it's just a number on paper that doesn't really mean anything (especially given how notoriously difficult it is to accurately measure).
I don't believe I've ever disparaged your training in this thread (that was mostly Arkk by himself, if I remember). The reason I give you shit when you post is that you refuse to consider the fact the numbers you're posting might not be 100% accurate. For example, you posted that 1.5% body fat loss number and Eomer responded with a well-thought, logical reason why it might not be completely accurate. Did you consider his point of view? Did you think to yourself, "Hmm, he might be right, but it doesn't really matter because I am happy with my progress"? No, you immediately post that we don't know what the fuck we're talking about and we are all clearly wrong because we disagree with you. When you constantly post such standoffish responses to people pointing out possible inaccuracies with your numbers, what do you expect?
Go read the Paleo thread and take lessons from Dashel on how to respond to critics in a mature way that encourages further discussion instead of Picard face palms.
