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Noodleface

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Just sucks man, you can tell they created the position just for me. It's a whole lot of "we need this" with a whole lack of understanding what I actually need to do. 2 years max here for sure. Need to be on a real coding team.
 

Flipmode

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I think you had said you were going for networking stuff (CCNA). Maybe use your connections at the hospital to get into their IT department? Networking at hospitals, especially security, is exploding. Might lead to something?
I think that's the angle I'm gonna try first. Seems like a logical step. They are paying for my school anyways and I have 10 years seniority.
 

Palum

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I think that's the angle I'm gonna try first. Seems like a logical step. They are paying for my school anyways and I have 10 years seniority.
Don't give up on free school man, it's not worth it esp. considering what you make now. How bad are your hours, could you eventually find something part time while finishing school to just get your feet wet in networking?
 

Flipmode

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Don't give up on free school man, it's not worth it esp. considering what you make now. How bad are your hours, could you eventually find something part time while finishing school to just get your feet wet in networking?
I work 12 hr shifts, 3 days a week. More if i pick up OT. The management in my dept is fucking inept but I can keep my head down and grind out my degree on their dime. I'm just trying to get a feel for my 2nd career and where I should be focusing my effort. I currently have my A+, Network+, and Security+ certs and by the time I graduate, I'll have Linux+, Project+, MCSA Server 2012, and MCSA Windows 7. Those are included in the degree plan of the school and they pay for the cert exams to boot. I am gonna have to get a CCNA on my own and most likely some VMware certs too.
 

Crone

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Going to WGU? Sounds like their program in Network Admin. Anyone else gone to WGU? I'm considering enrolling to finish my degree.

Also, what's the difference between a network Admin and a network engineer? WGU has a Network Admin degree and doesn't even have you get any Cisco certs. But you go into their network security degree program and it has to you get your ccna and ccna security? This really surprised me.

I don't get it, other than a Network Admin shouldn't expect to only work on Cisco gear? I'm a network tech right now at Boeing and want to pursue my ccnp eventually, but don't have a huge interest in network security. Seems I should probably get interested though with how often I see a need for infosec positions.
 

Palum

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I work 12 hr shifts, 3 days a week. More if i pick up OT. The management in my dept is fucking inept but I can keep my head down and grind out my degree on their dime. I'm just trying to get a feel for my 2nd career and where I should be focusing my effort. I currently have my A+, Network+, and Security+ certs and by the time I graduate, I'll have Linux+, Project+, MCSA Server 2012, and MCSA Windows 7. Those are included in the degree plan of the school and they pay for the cert exams to boot. I am gonna have to get a CCNA on my own and most likely some VMware certs too.
That sounds like a good deal. The issue you'll have as you stated was not having ins/experience in the field. If that 65 includes OT I think you can probably get back to that quickly but if OT is on top of that you're going to have to burn the midnight oil to get the experience to land a job in that bracket. That said I'm not sure if there's upward mobility as a respiratory therapist while there's plenty of higher paying IT positions with the right experience and resume. Good luck, def try to find anything to gain exp.
 

Vinen

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Going to WGU? Sounds like their program in Network Admin. Anyone else gone to WGU? I'm considering enrolling to finish my degree.

Also, what's the difference between a network Admin and a network engineer? WGU has a Network Admin degree and doesn't even have you get any Cisco certs. But you go into their network security degree program and it has to you get your ccna and ccna security? This really surprised me.

I don't get it, other than a Network Admin shouldn't expect to only work on Cisco gear? I'm a network tech right now at Boeing and want to pursue my ccnp eventually, but don't have a huge interest in network security. Seems I should probably get interested though with how often I see a need for infosec positions.
Network Engineer designs networks. Network Admins drools on the keyboard in nocs. Or at leasts thats my take.

CCNA is a complete joke. Shouldn't take more than 2 weeks of studying to pass.
 

chaos

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The line between the two sometimes gets hazy. Really it's a matter of what you want to do, call yourself that and go after the experience to back it up. Say "I am an engineer" and start looking for opportunities to build shit. Or say " I am an admin and look for opportunities to... administrate... or something...
 

Vinen

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The line between the two sometimes gets hazy. Really it's a matter of what you want to do, call yourself that and go after the experience to back it up. Say "I am an engineer" and start looking for opportunities to build shit. Or say " I am an admin and look for opportunities to... administrate... or something...
Overall. I would recommend working towards being a Network Engineer (Whatever that title even means!)
It sounds 100x better then "Network Admin." Admin sounds like a grunt, easily replaceable job.
And as usual. Learn SDN solutions from Cisco and VMware (we are the pioneer in this area).
 

Noodleface

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Well my degree is in computer engineering, not science. I even went to an ABET accredited school and everything!
 

Mist

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Yeah, there's a ton of 'telecoms engineers' at my company who have no degrees in anything.
 

Cad

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Nobody cares about the engineer title, all that matters is what you actually can do/have done. Anytime I hear someone getting buttmad about titles, I know they don't have actual accomplishments to tell you about.
 

chaos

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engineers get really butthurt if you call yourself an engineer when you aren't one

source: am one
I was calling myself an engineer back when I was running cable and updating iOS. Not even remotely, I was consoling in with a laptop. /rustledbrah? Now I nebulously call myself a "security engineer" and get to spend a lot of time talking about risk management and "threat intelligence" if I really want to blow minds