What do you do?

It'll be an enormous move. I'm not even thinking about that yet because if I start worrying about it I feel like I'm jinxing myself. Horse first, then cart.

Found my interviewer's doctoral thesis and it's fucking 200 pages. My weekend just went to hell.

Heylel_sl said:

It'll be an enormous move. I'm not even thinking about that yet because if I start worrying about it I feel like I'm jinxing myself. Horse first, then cart.

Found my interviewer's doctoral thesis and it's fucking 200 pages. My weekend just went to hell.

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He probably doesn't remember and had someone else write it. I wrote a portion of the thesis for a friend of mine. He edited it obviously. Guess it paid off, he's now in charge of the wildlife division for TX Parks and Wildlife. The first person EVER not have graduated from A&M.

The dozen other publications on his LinkedIn page strongly suggest he did it himself. I'm also able to find some presentations by him on YouTube, so I'll try to go off those as much as I can.

Plagiarize. It always works out well.

Haven't kept up on this thread for a dozen plus pages but I just got my CCNA cert this morning. Will get my resume finished up and LinkedIn profile updated this weekend and probably start job hunting on Monday.

Anyone in the Portland area need a networking guy?

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I'm more curious how an elementary school teacher is getting paid 90k a year.

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If you don't work for a shitty school district you can get paid. Surprised someone that tardy would get/keep the job because generally to make that kind of money you are a cream of the crop teacher. It was pretty common for teachers at my high school to be making about that much and even more common in my current district. I think the "oh poor teachers making no money!" thing is largely for teachers who work in inner city schools. Which sucks because they probably should get paid more but on the flip side they could just be objectively terrible teachers who graduated from a shitty college with shitty grades and couldn't get a yuppie suburb job.

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I don't know if every state does it but Ohio publishes teacher salaries:

http://www.tos.ohio.gov/transparency_teacher.aspx

For example just select position "Teacher" and then go to "Dublin City" and that is my current district. You can also do "Mason City School District" and that was from my old district. These are both highly awarded school districts that invest heavily in the teachers and are flush with cash. Also don't forget I don't believe teachers need to pay into social security so they take home more than you and me.

My friend got a job teaching highschool history straight out of college for $65,000/year. It was like the worst high school in the state for violence and general shit-bagging, so maybe that had something to do with it. He said some of the tenured staff were making over $100k/year

And they get 3 months off per year. The fallacy of teachers being these overworked underpaid servants to children is something I don't fully buy into. Not to mention you went to college for 4 years so if you hate teaching kids and find it a massive chore why'd you do it?!

A lot of places require a masters for teaching as well, at least here. I think you have af ew years after starting to acquire one.

Ohio does as well but since I know quite a few teachers it mostly done completely online these days after you've already started your teaching gig

Don't let your local situations color your perception of the problem nationwide. As a country, we have a serious problem with teacher salaries. Salary levels and education requirements vary be state and even county. Example: in shitbag Paulding County, GA you need a bachelor's and either a master's in education or a teaching certificate (both roughly 2 years beyond undergrad). If you've got that, you can find work easily because they NEED teachers, and you'll start in the mid-40s. If you don't have the certfication yet, you can get a "fast track" into teaching where they'll put you in the classroom while you finish either in night school, but until then you're paid like a para-pro and make $11.50 an hour. The majority of Georgia works like this.

You've got people who want to go into teaching, have advanced degrees in other fields but don't have a teaching certificate. While they might take a pay cut for some extra time off when their kids are young, they can't very well spend 2 more years in school and get paid like a barista for 50+ hour work weeks just to become a teacher. They'll just stay in industry instead.

Btw, 3 months off is wrong. You get about 5 weeks in the height of summer where nothing is happening at school, but teachers go back and leave later than all of the kids. Plus during the school year, there's a lot of work outside of class that you're not compensated for beyond your regular salary. Tack on school supplies, continuing education requirements (10 credit hours per 2 years) and all the other costs, and it's just not a well compensated job.

I just looked up my wife's old district which is a textbook definition of "small town America." Even there the average salary seems to be about 55k. I'm sorry but every job and every industry has their shit. It is just teachers complain more about it.

Everyone gripes, yeah. The problem isn't so much salaries as it is organizational dysfunction. School systems are a great place to fail upwards.

Tarrant_sl said:

Teachers here don't get near that, nor do they back home where I'm front. Nationwide the avg Teacher salary is $44,376 (k-12 teachers) which is more in line with what I've seen my whole life in terms of locally to where I've lived.

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That average is also including some wildly inflated salaries, to be sure.

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Yes, which also includes some wildly under paid people, that's why it's called an average.

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That's what I was getting at. For every teacher out there making 90k, there are 5 making 35 rather than 45. In that income range, it makes a significant difference. Especially with student loans to pay for advanced degree requirements and continuing education costs for your whole career.

Important to remember they only work 180 days a year too