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Borzak_sl said:
Does anyone not take pride in what they do and acutally acomplish thru thier work anymore?
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I hope this comes back at my new job. Old job just treated our whole team too poorly to give a fuck. I pretty much spent half the time at work surfing this board - admins here can confirm this through the IPs I've used
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Borzak_sl said:
Does anyone not take pride in what they do and acutally acomplish thru thier work anymore?
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For all 6 years at my first IT job I definitely did. Anything I've done working for the university, definitely did except for some truly menial shit some professors in the department throw at me on occasion, or when I have to make up for someone else's failure.

But this excessively corporate shithole where they treat you like you're in middle school detention? Fuck no, I'm there to get a paycheck until they fire me.
 
Borzak

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I'm not pointing fingers at anyone. Just seemed a lot of negatives about work lately in here. I bitch a lot too, but it's just bitching. Bitch enough and I get tired of it and move on like I did the last job.

I take a lot of pride in getting "stuff" done. I take a lot of pride and show people the stuff I have done. Most of it you wouldn't know if I showed you or it's behind a gate. But I get a kick out of showing people the bridge I drew that rotates on a giant turntable, the bridge to walk down to the river boat casino, the multi story structure at the water park for a slide. Stuff like that. The petro chemical stuff I actually have more pride in, because there's more "me" in it.
 
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I think it's easier to have pride in your work when you're producing something tangible and/or your work matters a lot in the overall picture. I used to do work that quite literally didn't matter much 90% of the time, and it was work that no one else noticed or cared about. It's hard to maintain pride in your work in situations like that.
 
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Nothing IT/software related at all.

My background is in sales. First retail management and currently Insurance(personal & commercial). I'm probably looking to stay in some sort of insurance/finance/benefits related field. Haven't decided if I want to stay in sales, or move over more to the service/underwriting side of things.

So far I've just been browsing individual company websites for openings, but I also haven't been to aggressive in searching yet as my current job doesn't end until December 2016 (but I could leave earlier if I found something better)
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Bite the bullet and pay for a premium LinkedIn for a couple of months, and aggressively build that network. If I hadn't done that, I never would have had the connections that landed me my new position. As much as I dislike LinkedIn for beng a pay-for-play social media site, it worked for me.

I would also go ahead and start polishing your resume until it shines even if you think you've got a great one. Have as many impartial people take a look as possible. I was coming out of academia, so I had to really do some research to ensure that I was using the right industry speak. Some of the feedback I received from a job that I interviewed for but did not land was that I "did a great job explaining what I actually do, which most interviewees have a hard time with." Learning how they expected me to describe my daily routine helped with that (I ended up not advancing because I gave a strength-as-weakness answer to a behavioral question where they wanted a genuine weakness, it was dumb).

I got some great resume advice both here on this forum, and on reddit from subs that were specific to the fields I was applying in.
 
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Linkedin is 99% of job leads that I see these days, really is the best tool.

As to enjoying the job, I have days where it is awesome but most days it is just work and a means to an end to having the personal life I want.
 
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CnCGOD_sl said:
As to enjoying the job, I have days where it is awesome but most days it is just work and a means to an end to having the personal life I want.
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My wife and I clash on this a lot. Not argue really, but it's a difference of perspective. She really and truly throws herself into her job and it becomes her #1 priority. She genuinely enjoys it, so working feels like her hobby. I'm more like you. I work to have the life that I want, but it's something I have to do rather than something I wake up excited to do.

Mostly it's just annoying when she accidentally works late and so I get stuck cleaning the house or handling dinner because oops she's still in traffic.
 
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My wife tried the throw her self into work thing and it didn't do shit for her so I taught her the art of being apathetic but ambitious. Work on the parts of a role that are cool and neglect the bullshit.

Workaholics I could never live with because honestly like you said it is their Hobby and that means your time together will take a backseat, repeatedly and they will blame it on the job requiring it. My company will take everything you are willing to give it , 100 hour weeks are not uncommon and I see people working on HipChat at 1AM on sunday but I don't play that game. It destroys relationships, have seen a bunch go boom.
 
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I take immense pride but there are dudes at work that are there when you get in and also when you leave. The guys writing emails at 10pm.
 
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Borzak_sl said:
Does anyone not take pride in what they do and acutally acomplish thru thier work anymore?
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I used to, I really did. I'd try to make everything I did look neat and squared away. If that meant it took longer to finish a job, so be it. There were times where I'd end up clocked-out but I'd stay and try to tie up loose ends while off the clock, because I know if my employer saw that I spent extra hours on my timesheet that they'd lose their minds (hourly not salary, obvs). But eventually I saw this trend where employers gave less fucks about how good a job was done and only cared about your speed. And I'd look over at coworkers coming onto the jobsite hungover or still drunk, 30m-60m late, who would cut every corner imaginable and do work so shoddy that later on someone else would have to fix what they did (often it was me)...but they would be seen as the 'best' employees because they seemed to work fast....

Or there was the fantastic trend I encountered at a few places where I would work my ass off while coworkers would spend hours on smoke breaks or hiding in an office surfing the web. I'd be up to my eyeballs in work while they where nowhere to be seen, and then someone would come in and give me more work while stopping to needle me about how long it would take me to finish the project I was working on. I've had a few dustups where my immediate supervisor would start busting my balls for 'not getting shit done', and when I started dropping truth-bombs about having to carry other people, the response was invariably a variation on"...well, yeah, but that's why we give you all this work, we know you'll do it". Da fuq? And then when promotions and raises roll around, I'd get passed over because they couldn't afford to lose me from that position but I wouldn't get much of a raise if I got any raise at all, because they would try to base pay and raises on my position. Know who got promotions? The jackasses that gave zero shits and fucked off 24/7.

Thankfully I'm in a much different place now, and I hope to get into a place sometime in the future where I CAN do work that I can take pride in without all the associated shit I've seen elsewhere, but I'm not going to hold my breath either.
 
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I've worked with a few people who just like to work, not actually accomplish anything. My last boss and I were on the same page. During my interview he said "We work hard so we can play hard". Take Fridays off if you had got stuff done. Work real long hours during a turnaround and then take a month off paid vacation.

Doing "work" is their key, not actually having anything they can point to at the end of the week and say "it's done".
 
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Interviewed at a similar firm that also does manufacturing. Very young group, new president is 31 apparently. They said they were almost sure I would be their pick and they would provide a package that was open to negotiation. Their standard schedule is starting out with 4 days pto, then after 1 year you get a week vacation, 2 years 2 weeks, 5 years 3 weeks. I think that blows.
 
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Picasso_sl said:
Interviewed at a similar firm that also does manufacturing. Very young group, new president is 31 apparently. They said they were almost sure I would be their pick and they would provide a package that was open to negotiation. Their standard schedule is starting out with 4 days pto, then after 1 year you get a week vacation, 2 years 2 weeks, 5 years 3 weeks. I think that blows.
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It does blow. 4 days of PTO? Then after a year you get... one extra day?
 
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I technically get all the "PTO" i can take while still doing my job. I have no fixed hours, I just need to meet hours targets for the year and handle the responsibilities of my cases. Other than that, nobody gives a fuck when I'm in the office. At my first law firm job I asked how much vacation I get, they were like, well, how hard do you work normally? The harder you work normally, the more time you can take off.
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I like that system.

One of the partners here told me he's on track to work 2300 hours this year, but he worked like 500 hours the first 6 months, and he'll work 1800 the second 6 months.
 
Khane

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I don't understand companies that have such a shitty amount of vacation time. They have to know that benefits package is ridiculously easy to beat and it's gonna be hard to keep people working for you.

Also, what is up with flat vacation packages? I interviewed for a company last year that only offered two weeks even though I have 10 years of industry experience and it was an Architect position. I can't fathom how they think anyone decent at the job would work for such little vacation time.
 
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