World of Warcraft: Classic
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
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Tmac
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Ahem. *does best
Noodleface
impression*"If you polled a majority of the people quitting I bet 1% would complain about raid difficulty."
Gotta break it up into smaller sentences for comprehension.
How many different ways we gotta say it?
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Siliconemelons
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So the IRL crew that started around BC is getting all excited about classic - so they actually invited me to join them - as I actually played WoW Classic PVP server and left when BC dropped because, honestly, I saw the writing on the wall and didnt like the DE-EQing it was.
Anywho, an aspect I think that is going to affect the general attitude and leveling aspect of WoW:Classic - is that EVERYONE knows now that all gear and progression until max is pointless - all items are expendable and there is no need to ever "stop or slow down" to get that nice X or Y really. In EQ because it was slower and the gear had way longer lifespans - you could do things to get a X item that would last you, it was worth the slow down in leveling to grind some plat or farm a camp for a yak... in WoW...yeah there are stepping stone items and nice items that last you...3 or 4, or 5! levels! but their % in "helping" is rather nill- its best to keep on blasting through.
PVP server was fun, there was always someone higher and better than you, there was always someone smaller and worse...and the fun happens in-between.
Anywho, an aspect I think that is going to affect the general attitude and leveling aspect of WoW:Classic - is that EVERYONE knows now that all gear and progression until max is pointless - all items are expendable and there is no need to ever "stop or slow down" to get that nice X or Y really. In EQ because it was slower and the gear had way longer lifespans - you could do things to get a X item that would last you, it was worth the slow down in leveling to grind some plat or farm a camp for a yak... in WoW...yeah there are stepping stone items and nice items that last you...3 or 4, or 5! levels! but their % in "helping" is rather nill- its best to keep on blasting through.
PVP server was fun, there was always someone higher and better than you, there was always someone smaller and worse...and the fun happens in-between.
Noodleface
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Look man I get it, I pissed you off. You did not claim anything that khane is saying in any of your posts. You can't cite after the fact and say oh yeah I meant this.Ahem. *does best
"If you polled a majority of the people quitting I bet 1% would complain about raid difficulty."
Gotta break it up into smaller sentences for comprehension.
How many different ways we gotta say it?
I agree they've done some dumb shit like personal loot. Tuning anything to mythic is stupid, they tried to fix a problem that like 3 guilds were partaking in. But stuff like islands were never fun to begin with, that's a large part of why BfA failed. Islands sucked. Warfronts sucked. Classes played awful. Tanking felt like.shit. Healing felt like sucking a turd through a straw. Azerite was a step back from legion. World quests STILL sucked. Flying system STILL sucks. Levelling feels AWFUL at 110-120.
There's a lot wrong with BfA and SOME of it can be attributed to some asinine decisions Ion made.
Tmac
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I'm so angry! Lol.
And you're being dense if you can't see a correlation in our posts.
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Chris
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Wait... was Scarlet Monestary all one dungeon back then? Getting flashbacks.
Was the Graveyard separate maybe?
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I miss having real GM's that interacted with the community. EQ GM's were cool in they would actually teleport to you and watch shit, but Blizzard GM's at least back in the day had some personality and would actually be of assistance before they outsourced that shit to street shitting Indian call centers who read from a script.
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All those things you mentioned are also a big part of it, I agree with you that high end Mythic raiding and Mythic plus isn't the leading cause of sub loss but in it's current state even you would have to admit it sure as fuck isn't helping.