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xzi

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Asmon said he's 28, so he was like 12 when vanilla started

I was too but I was there since day one and raided until the last 2 bosses of Naxx getting all server firsts.

Which probably shows how hard classic raiding really is.
 

Quineloe

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Is Asmongold somehow handicapped? His mouth never closes and he's not even talking that much.
 
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Quineloe

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The classicwow Reddit is retarded. They're rabbit about flying mounts being bad. How it destroyed the game. Fucking fags. Flying was the greatest thing ever.
wrong. Flying removed travel to a point, it removed the world itself. It was just the first step towards click here for todays dungeon run.

Flight paths were good enough.

as for the arguing over raid numbers. just remove all caps. let the zerg zerg. 40 morons would still wipe to a hard boss tuned for 15
 
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xzi

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I don't care much for flying, but the classicwow subreddit is definitely retarded as fuck.

Half of them just make shit up to be mad about, and the other half think private servers have better data and info than blizzard does about their own game. It's genuinely somehow the most toxic gaming subreddit I've ever lurked in, and I feel like that is saying a ton about it.

I still lurk though.
 

elidib

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the other half think private servers have better data and info than blizzard does about their own game.

Oh, they definitely do. Blizzard never planned for this thing and had to create everything basically from scratch using the new client and it shows. pservers are also waaaay faster at fixing things than blizzard is and far more responsive and transparent.

Back in January or whenever it was first announced i was pretty excited for this whole thing. Excited enough to just go ahead and roll on a fresh private server. Within 2 months i was disabused of the whole idea of this grand experiment.

The die-hard purists who don't want any quality of life changes are the worst human beings on the planet.
 
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Quineloe

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I don't care much for flying, but the classicwow subreddit is definitely retarded as fuck.

Half of them just make shit up to be mad about, and the other half think private servers have better data and info than blizzard does about their own game. It's genuinely somehow the most toxic gaming subreddit I've ever lurked in, and I feel like that is saying a ton about it.

I still lurk though.

I have a very easy time believing Blizzard didn't know anything about Classic WoW two years ago. Most of the people responsible back then have left the company, those in charge today were barely qualified to run the coffee machine. Software backups are easily lost in a decade. I doubt there's a master network drive where all user clients and server clients are stored, carefully dated back on every version to 2004.

Those who have worked IT in the same place for 15 years can see if they can put together their most vital systems they ran 15 years ago in a VM. They'd run into walls very quickly.
 
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Ossoi

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I doubt there's a master network drive where all user clients and server clients are stored, carefully dated back on every version to 2004.

I think they said that each patch overwrote the back up of the previous patch and all they had left was 1.12
 

Quineloe

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That sounds incredibly smart. Especially when something gets broken in a patch, but nobody reports it before the next patch, and then you have no old patch to compare it to.
 

TJT

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Companies are shit at version control today even with systems like Git with built in redundancy so it is much harder to lose track versions. But you still can if you try hard enough!

Whatever shit they had laying around from Classic Wow 2004 is basically engineering archaeology at that point. Even if you had the source code for 1.12 they also changed infrastructure dramatically over the years. Their developers today would probably struggle making heads or tales of it. I am sure a lot of reverse engineering was going on. This is a common practice at a lot of companies with any kind of legacy code.
 

Neranja

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You have to remember this was basically 15 years ago, before the advent of the cloud and things like Amazon S3. And way before Blizzard management realized that they weren't a "make game - ship game - make next game" company anymore, but in the business of providing a contnious service with a monthly fee.

Real men back then had to buy their servers, and disks weren't cheap. Also, we did backups to tape drives. Those IBM 3590 drives were expensive as fuck.
 

a_skeleton_05

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People not understanding Asmongolds popularity while constantly talking about him like he was a Kardashian that did something worth gossiping about. Can't explain that.
 

BoozeCube

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If nothing else at least raids being tied to 1 specific raid ID will cut down on all the useless trash faggots spamming nonstop to sell runs like they do in live.
 

Noodleface

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Companies are shit at version control today even with systems like Git with built in redundancy so it is much harder to lose track versions. But you still can if you try hard enough!

Whatever shit they had laying around from Classic Wow 2004 is basically engineering archaeology at that point. Even if you had the source code for 1.12 they also changed infrastructure dramatically over the years. Their developers today would probably struggle making heads or tales of it. I am sure a lot of reverse engineering was going on. This is a common practice at a lot of companies with any kind of legacy code.
Not to mention they may not have even had a machine that could build 15 year old source code. I saw that a lot in defense.
 
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alavaz

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I came to WoW with people from my EQ guild. 40 wasn't much of a problem. I did notice though that a lot of first timers or WC3 fanboys did not want to leave their small guild. I actually thought it was kind of cool seeing 3-4 guild teams raid MC together. Obviously loot became a logistical nightmare at a certain point and they usually wound up collapsing into whichever guild had the stronger leadership.
 

xzi

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If nothing else at least raids being tied to 1 specific raid ID will cut down on all the useless trash faggots spamming nonstop to sell runs like they do in live.
Nothing will change.

Will sell my UBRS key for 1g to anyone who needs it opened.
 

Quineloe

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People not understanding Asmongolds popularity while constantly talking about him like he was a Kardashian that did something worth gossiping about. Can't explain that.
The moment we have our own game to play I'll forget about him instantly. But even when avoiding his stream, all the other streamers keep talking about him.
 

xzi

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It's a 5 man dungeon that is absolutely necessary to complete several quest chains including raid attunements and it requires a key

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