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Adebisi

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I don't think classic AV battles would have been possible anyway. The problem is that people know how the BG works and that the Alliance in particular can bypass half the BG and rush around the back of Frostwolf Keep to the final GY and zerg a victory. So even if we got the original AV with Korrak and everything else, it's unlikely you'd ever get the epic battles we had at release simply because of player knowledge.

Alliance didn't dominate AV on my server until they took out 90% of the NPCs. Make AV Great Again is the real MAGA
 
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xzi

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I love a good ol fashion fucking brawl in the field of strife, not accomplishing ANYTHING other than murderin each other (and stealing their blood to turn in)

what a time to be alive
 
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Tarrant

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I agree if they put in all the original NPCs and made it truly original we could have the week long AV battles of old again.

Gosh damn those were fun.
 
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Khane

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Alliance didn't dominate AV on my server until they took out 90% of the NPCs. Make AV Great Again is the real MAGA

Because the alliance on your server didn't know any better. Which is my point. You can't just erase known strategies. You could run all the way around the back of FW keep to the last GY where there were only the flag NPCs and one patrol. I wish I could find a video of it but you could actually hop the fence and get right there. This wasn't even going straight through the gates after the NPCs had been removed, you could bypass everything in the original version of AV.
 
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xzi

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Because the alliance on your server didn't know any better. Which is my point. You can't just erase known strategies. You could run all the way around the back of FW keep to the last GY where there were only the flag NPCs and one patrol. I wish I could find a video of it but you could actually hop the fence and get right there. This wasn't even going straight through the gates after the NPCs had been removed, you could bypass everything in the original version of AV.

This still 100% exists in the game btw lol

Usually done with lock gates
 

mkopec

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Holy shit, I have not palyed a match of AV in years I used to camp that shit for hours a day. I loved that battleground. All versions of it.
 

Tarrant

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Because the alliance on your server didn't know any better. Which is my point. You can't just erase known strategies. You could run all the way around the back of FW keep to the last GY where there were only the flag NPCs and one patrol. I wish I could find a video of it but you could actually hop the fence and get right there. This wasn't even going straight through the gates after the NPCs had been removed, you could bypass everything in the original version of AV.
I was on a RP server and GMs back in the early days strait up kicked people or temp banned them for doing these things on the grounds of ruining RP for people.

Lame reason for a ban but it served its purpose and we didn’t see much of that in the early days. Our. Immunity was pretty good in Earthen Ring.
 

yerm

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Because the alliance on your server didn't know any better. Which is my point. You can't just erase known strategies. You could run all the way around the back of FW keep to the last GY where there were only the flag NPCs and one patrol. I wish I could find a video of it but you could actually hop the fence and get right there. This wasn't even going straight through the gates after the NPCs had been removed, you could bypass everything in the original version of AV.

The ignorance cut both ways. This was easily countered by the horde if they wanted to by "training" the alliance or just having a defense in force, unless the alliance were extremely careful to turtle by the hut and not grab agro. They would try it on my server and usually it worked only because the horde was surprised. There was a ton of garbage nearby if you could only trick a pet, bait a dunb hunter, or mc hat someone to it. Or just leave 10 horde there and cuck them on arrival.

What I want is TRULY original AV. Best thorium veins anywhere.
 

Chris

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I don't think classic AV battles would have been possible anyway. The problem is that people know how the BG works and that the Alliance in particular can bypass half the BG and rush around the back of Frostwolf Keep to the final GY and zerg a victory. So even if we got the original AV with Korrak and everything else, it's unlikely you'd ever get the epic battles we had at release simply because of player knowledge.
This is what I did. You can run through the entire horde base, priest fear the guards and cap the flag solo. Then you can be working on the towers while the rest of the alliance finish killing the miniboss.
 
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Tmac

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I thought I saw AV in the plans for Classic. Are you saying AV isn’t going to be in Classic or that it’ll be an updated version versus pre 1.12 AV?
 

mkopec

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So blizz can go and add some structure to prevent that? It would literally take them 10 min to add a fucking rock you could not jump over, lol.
 

Khane

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The problems with GY rushing started when Blizzard decided PvP should be more PvE oriented and murdered the amount of honor you got for actually killing other players. Moving the only reasonable honor gains to winning the BG. That was when people stopped battling and just ignored each other trying to rush objectives.

Sitting in the field of strife farming the other faction was the best way to get honor until the fun police decided PvP shouldn't actually be player vs player anymore. It also killed world PvP.
 
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xzi

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So blizz can go and add some structure to prevent that? It would literally take them 10 min to add a fucking rock you could not jump over, lol.

Not that's we're talking about live, but I'm convinced the reason they still haven't fixed it is because it's pretty much impossible to kill the boss without taking towers/bunkers so if someone takes your base gy it kind of doesn't really matter
 

mkopec

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I can remember playing AV, but I honestly dont remember HOW we played it. LOL, smoked too much pot at that time.
 

TJT

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BGs suck. The end. World PVP is amusing sometimes though!
 
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mkopec

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Nahh, back when they came out they were fucking revolutionary. You gotta admit, no other game had BGs before WOW. World PvP just ends up being a slaughter in one way or the other by who brings the bigger dick to that battlefield. Its all about numbers. Sure a few really great players can do some dmg, but all in all if you got the bigger zerg, you will win. BGs kind of equalized all that and gave players in match goals.
 

sadris

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Classic multi-day AV was amazing. And when you got bored you just left the zone. Now AV is literally two sides trying to avoid each other.
 
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Adebisi

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PUG Horde v. PUG Alliance = Alliance AV win
Organized Horde v. PUG Alliance = Horde AV win
Organized Horde v. Organized Alliance = Alliance AV win
 
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Springbok

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I enjoyed it and the grind for the ring and mace wasn't that bad. Pretty easy way to get a mount as well.

Disappointed to here launch AV will be the updated version, but world pvp is where the fun will be had anyway
 

Kiki

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Alliance can just rush the base, where we have to re-enact D-day on a bridge. Horde was the red-headed step child of classic. They only fixed razorgore cheese when Horde were about to get paladins. It was a joke.
 
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