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Arbitrary

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If there are 73 versions of Herod why will be there queues you cunts?

They decided on a cap on the number of layers that was below their current technology's maximum capability. Their reason was the phase two removal of layering. Condensing many layers down to no layers would reintroduce all the same overpopulation and queue issues.
 

Kharzette

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I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.
 

a_skeleton_05

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PvP servers provide encouragement for people to interact with each-other which is the primary reason most people are wanting to play classic: An actual social experience that doesn't come from pressing a button followed by silence.
 
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mkopec

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I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.

World PvP before the battlegrounds come out.



 

misery

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I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.

If you don't get the excitement that some people feel no one can really explain it to you. It's why the PvP servers are so popular, because quite a few people get that excitement of not knowing. It just adds another element for a lot of us that PvE servers don't have. It's like asking someone who loves chocolate why they're eating chocolate since it's just a food and it goes to the same place. If you don't think chocolate is delicious you wouldn't get why people would eat it, and it would be really hard to explain it to you.
 
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a_skeleton_05

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I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.

I started on PvP servers in vanilla CB and in release, and I eventually came to hate pvp after it all got pushed into instances and world pvp just became ganking, so I can understand your opinion on this. That said, world pvp at release of the game, while everyone is still levelling and establishing their characters is a really fun experience. You find yourself playing an entirely different game, one which has dynamic living content being thrown at you at all times. You will come to hate specific players, like others that you find common "live and let live" moments with, and meet friends along the way as you band together to survive. Yes, it all can be incredibly frustrating and annoying, but it comes with its own benefits.
 
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misery

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I started on PvP servers in vanilla CB and in release, and I eventually came to hate pvp after it all got pushed into instances and world pvp just became ganking, so I can understand your opinion on this. That said, world pvp at release of the game, while everyone is still levelling and establishing their characters is a really fun experience. You find yourself playing an entirely different game, one which has dynamic living content being thrown at you at all times. You will come to hate specific players, like others that you find common "live and let live" moments with, and meet friends along the way as you band together to survive. Yes, it all can be incredibly frustrating and annoying, but it comes with its own benefits.

Also make sure you don't end up on a server with a 7 Horde to 1 Alliance ratio like Mal'Ganis. As Horde you'll never see Alliance. As Alliance you'll never see anything but masses of Horde.
 
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Arbitrary

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I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.

If the servers were a few months old I'd never play on a PvP server. Back in the day it felt like all I had done was give complete strangers the authority to dictate when it was time for me to take a break. Exploded by max level rogue, exploded on respawn, time to make a sandwich.

But starting fresh it's going to take a considerable amount of time for that to make it's way down to plebs in any serious amount. With the content staggered by what I expect to be lengthy phases the open world PvP is just more stuff to do. The unofficial streamer server should suck in the most disgusting human beings anyway. If Whitemane ends up entirely 4chan/8chan Alliance I'm not too proud to blow 25 smackaroos to get the fuck out either.
 

a_skeleton_05

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Also make sure you don't end up on a server with a 7 Horde to 1 Alliance ratio like Mal'Ganis. As Horde you'll never see Alliance. As Alliance you'll never see anything but masses of Horde.

Funny you say that because that's literally what I did at vanilla release. Landing in Menethil only to find an army of Goons camping the docks for hours was... "fun" But on the plus side, I did get to be a victim in two of Daddar's gank videos.
 
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misery

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Funny you say that because that's literally what I did at vanilla release. Landing in Menethil only to find an army of Goons camping the docks for hours was... "fun" But on the plus side, I did get to be a victim in two of Daddar's gank videos.

When I read your comment I thought mine might be somewhat relevant.
 

Daezuel

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This time between launch and Phase 3 will be the only time you can actually only pvp with people on your own server and IN the world. Maybe they'll relaunch fresh classic servers in the years to come but never again will it be as hyped as these next few months until whenever phase 3 launches. Playing on PVE for half a year for what? MC/Ony?
 
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BoozeCube

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I would imagine Phase 2 would be the worst spot for lowbies getting ganked because the honor system will be in place and no new content other than the 2 outdoor bosses 1 dungeon and PvP ranks being introduced.

Also some of you guys jump to wild conclusions we are going to be stubborn and stick to Whitemane she is our bea get used to it. If the servers are ultra fucked then after the damage is done some chimp fuck retard at Blizzard will give people server transfers to some hole in the wall dogshit realm and they can fuck right off. We will stand firm like real men do, stubbornly, defiantly.

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a_skeleton_05

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I would imagine Phase 2 would be the worst spot for lowbies getting ganked because the honor system will be in place and no new content other than the 2 outdoor bosses 1 dungeon and PvP ranks being introduced.

Also some of you guys jump to wild conclusions we are going to be stubborn and stick to Whitemane she is our bea get used to it. If the servers are ultra fucked then after the damage is done some chimp fuck retard at Blizzard will give people server transfers to some hole in the wall dogshit realm and they can fuck right off. We will stand firm like real men do, stubbornly, defiantly.

Captain America? Is that you?
 

misery

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I would imagine Phase 2 would be the worst spot for lowbies getting ganked because the honor system will be in place and no new content other than the 2 outdoor bosses 1 dungeon and PvP ranks being introduced.

Also some of you guys jump to wild conclusions we are going to be stubborn and stick to Whitemane she is our bea get used to it. If the servers are ultra fucked then after the damage is done some chimp fuck retard at Blizzard will give people server transfers to some hole in the wall dogshit realm and they can fuck right off. We will stand firm like real men do, stubbornly, defiantly.

I concur. I got the perfect bank alt name, the faction balance seems to be nearly perfect, it's not the highest population nor the lowest, little to no reddit pressence, no huge streamers, dat ass, chan pressence to keep the chat spicy and so much more. If the queues really suck I'm sure a huge amount of people will switch servers then we'll only have half-shitty queues for a while. I also imagine a lot of the launch day subbers will roll on the lowest population realms they can find when they see the queues, which should even things out a little bit. At least that's what I would do if I tried to start on a realm I couldn't grab a single name on and then had to wait in a 20 hour queue. I'd be like "screw this I'm going to Blue Moo."
 

Cinge

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I'm just shocked people actually volunteer to be on a pvp server. I can't imagine anyone enjoying that unless they were an undead rogue. Or maybe people have short memories.

World pvp was 90% of the fun in classic wow. BRM, STV, Hillsbrad. Huge fights outside the original BG queue areas. Hell just random battles would happen in the world as each side got ganked and called more people. And I was a mage in vanilla, I got 2 shot a lot, but could also kill just as fast.

I just don't see how it is exciting when there's nothing to be gained or lost. It's like you are signing up to have other people waste your time when you are trying to do other things.

It's fun? Does there really need to be anything more? Granted sometimes it was just killing or being killed for fun. But other times there was things to gain, gathering nodes, rare mob, a named for a quest, you formed lasting reputations with the enemy, met new people to group to either deter ganks or do the ganking that easily turned into future group oppurtunties and of course later came honor for kills.
 
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Deathwing

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You're talking to full bore autists here, "for fun" cannot be quantified, thus is not a direct reason to do something.
 
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misery

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I don't kill Alliance for fun, those bitches owe me lunch money.
 
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Borzak

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PvP is where people with big dicks play.

I was awful at pvp in WoW and always played on a PVP server. Honestly not much pvp ever went on. Maybe 1/2 a dozen times we got ambushed going to black wing lair or something. I'm the biggest care bear in the world but I kind of liked it. Of course I was a rogue but once you got into pvp that wasn't one on one you instantly were unstealthed anyway.