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Noodleface

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I think the reason they didn't want flying in Argus is because they want people to spend time on the ground, where they spent the last 6 months developing the place. It's both a fuck you to players and a way to service their own dicks. I don't think there's a big conspiracy , they simple don't want you to fly.
 

Chancellor Alkorin

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I wouldn't call it a conspiracy. It's a lot easier to do design without having to worry about the implications of flight and how some things will be completely trivialized (e.g. the Kirin Tor WQs). If there's no flight, there's no problem, and you don't have to spend extra hours designing around it.
 
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Xarpolis

Life's a Dream
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So, who is the "big boss" of this particular expansion?

Actually, who was the boss of last expansion? I remember Death Wing, but that's about it.
 

Khane

Got something right about marriage
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I thought Argus the Unmaker was actually Sargeras but I don't know shit about wow lore.
 

xzi

Mouthbreather
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Argus the Unmaker is the world soul of Argus iirc.

huge spoiler:
wasn't it datamined that Illidan sacrifices himself to imprison Sargeras or was it just to imprison Argus? Either way I doubt we actually fight Sargeras
 

Tantrik

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Current known last boss is Argus the Unmaker, world soul of Argus and the source of the Legion's super quick rez power.

After beating Argus, from data off PTR:
Note: we realize this may get a lot of attention...keep in mind we don't know what the fight is like, if there is a cinematic after the dialogue with a plot twist, if this is some alternate-reality flashback text, if the dialogue is in the precise order, if there are further raid tiers after this, etc... We hope that this can generate some healthy discussion though.

Illidan Stormrage: The titan soul of Argus is the key to breaking the Legion. Our defenses must hold long enough to destroy it... or Sargeras wins.
Prophet Velen: Perhaps this world's past can aid us. I will scour my memory for what may yet remain.

Magni Bronzebeard: Ye did it! Aggramar's essence is free! He can stand beside his brethren once more.
Prophet Velen: The very cradle of creation!
Magni Bronzebeard: The titans can sever that connection... but not here. They need ta bring the soul o' Argus ta their place o' power... the Seat o' the Pantheon.
Illidan Stormrage: Our victories mean nothing. So long as Sargeras has the soul of Argus to fuel his infinite army, Azeroth remains in grave peril.
Magni Bronzebeard: Their final act will harness the last o' Argus's power, to imprison Sargeras... once and for all.
Magni Bronzebeard: Heroes, I can signal the titans ta begin. Once they start their ritual... there's no turnin back!
Magni Bronzebeard: The tortured soul of Argus has been put to rest.
Illidan Stormrage: It matters not. We have lost. Look to the skies!
Prophet Velen: Sargeras will soon undo all we have fought for.
Voice of Amanthul: No.
Voice of Amanthul: We will use the last glimmer of Argus's power to bind him here. The Seat of the Pantheon shall become Sargeras's prison... and ours as well.
Prophet Velen: You would condemn yourselves to stop him?
Illidan Stormrage: Our world must survive... no matter the cost!
Voice of Amanthul: A sacrifice must be made.
Voice of Amanthul: Return home, children of Azeroth. Protect the final titan.
High Exarch Turalyon: Prophet... what happened out there?
Prophet Velen: Illidan serves as the Dark Titan's jailer. His sacrifice has ended the Legion. At long last, the Burning Crusade...is over.
 

a c i d.f l y

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Current known last boss is Argus the Unmaker, world soul of Argus and the source of the Legion's super quick rez power.

After beating Argus, from data off PTR:
Note: we realize this may get a lot of attention...keep in mind we don't know what the fight is like, if there is a cinematic after the dialogue with a plot twist, if this is some alternate-reality flashback text, if the dialogue is in the precise order, if there are further raid tiers after this, etc... We hope that this can generate some healthy discussion though.

Illidan Stormrage: The titan soul of Argus is the key to breaking the Legion. Our defenses must hold long enough to destroy it... or Sargeras wins.
Prophet Velen: Perhaps this world's past can aid us. I will scour my memory for what may yet remain.

Magni Bronzebeard: Ye did it! Aggramar's essence is free! He can stand beside his brethren once more.
Prophet Velen: The very cradle of creation!
Magni Bronzebeard: The titans can sever that connection... but not here. They need ta bring the soul o' Argus ta their place o' power... the Seat o' the Pantheon.
Illidan Stormrage: Our victories mean nothing. So long as Sargeras has the soul of Argus to fuel his infinite army, Azeroth remains in grave peril.
Magni Bronzebeard: Their final act will harness the last o' Argus's power, to imprison Sargeras... once and for all.
Magni Bronzebeard: Heroes, I can signal the titans ta begin. Once they start their ritual... there's no turnin back!
Magni Bronzebeard: The tortured soul of Argus has been put to rest.
Illidan Stormrage: It matters not. We have lost. Look to the skies!
Prophet Velen: Sargeras will soon undo all we have fought for.
Voice of Amanthul: No.
Voice of Amanthul: We will use the last glimmer of Argus's power to bind him here. The Seat of the Pantheon shall become Sargeras's prison... and ours as well.
Prophet Velen: You would condemn yourselves to stop him?
Illidan Stormrage: Our world must survive... no matter the cost!
Voice of Amanthul: A sacrifice must be made.
Voice of Amanthul: Return home, children of Azeroth. Protect the final titan.
High Exarch Turalyon: Prophet... what happened out there?
Prophet Velen: Illidan serves as the Dark Titan's jailer. His sacrifice has ended the Legion. At long last, the Burning Crusade...is over.

Lame... If they do this. That's just putting a cork in things. The Lich King was replaced. Illidan was imprisoned. Gul'Dan was too. Both were released. At least we won't have to fight Archimonde, Kiljaeden, or Gul'Dan again. Where's the finality to this story. I want to kick Sargeras' ass, not put a diaper on his essence. It's not even a good redemption for Illidan, thought it does allow him to "go out" on his terms. At least, until some shitlord comes along and releases the Sargeras empowered Illidan. So next expansion is starting to wreak of a Lich King return, maybe some more void lord action, celestials, or some other Titans. Or baby black dragon grows up. Only thing that might excite me is if the Lich King makes Jaina into a Bitch, err, Lich. She's already a bitch. Maybe they'll do something completely left field and have an alien invasion, now that tech has advanced far enough to attract attention. Then they could return the the old world, and give the rotting Azeroth and Kalimdor a reason for existing besides a main cities for an auction house. Wouldn't mind world quests in the old world. Iono, just spit balling since nothing would really make sense. Maybe an alternate reality version of Argus the expansion after next like they did with Outland/Draenor... /wrist
 

Noodleface

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I think they're gonna nerf him as more mythic guilds kill him. They probably have a magic number they're waiting for. Also they're retarded.
 
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Sumdain x

Trakanon Raider
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had a few 1% wipes on mistress last night.

It just comes down to coordination, you can love WoW all you want but some people just aren't coordinated enough to do mythic raiding, it sucks but its the truth. we had so many fights where you "stack on X" and we lose 2 people that were like "i thought i was on X". its that kind of bullshit that is keeping us wiping, we are at 317 wipes at this point and short of RNG being exceptionally generous and not targeting the shit players we aren't going to kill her.

people are surviving the hydra's now atleast i dont think we lost a single person to hydra shot, but we are losing them to dreadsharks and crashing waves or tornados+wave.
 

Khane

Got something right about marriage
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I stopped raiding. I'm just gonna wait until the Netherlight Crucible nerfs the shit out of ToS and go in then.