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Lowball said:
He was already full tilt by then, at first he just reacted to people saying PvP should be removed from the game because they don't like it and/or it is ruining pve. That's what I was referring to and should have been more clear about.
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Don't think anyone is really arguing to have it removed completely. We don't care about pvp. Nor is anyone denying that is has a market or is competitive. We've only stated it is NOT FUN FOR US. Also asking to simply separate abilities between the two so changes don't impact how pve plays. There's no way I can overestimate the impact of pvp on pve when my class has personally been fucked in the ass so many times because of changes related to pvp. For example, I don't give two fucks that being able to spam something in pvp isn't balanced, but it allows for being effective on more pve encounters. During Argus, I was very effective on three fights, absolute bottom on all the rest, because a change due to pvp fucked single target damage into the ground.

And to say some of us don't have a high level of understanding of this game would be fucking wrong as balls. Some of us have 120's of every class, and played most classes on most expansions. BfA really squashed the complexity of classes. Feels a lot more Diablo'ish with about 4-6 abilities, a builder, dot or instant, a spender, an AoE, a defensive, and an offensive cd. You want to tell me this was in the interest of fun and interesting pve? No, it was done for pvp because it's easier to balance a much smaller skill set.
 
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Separating abilities would be too logical. PvP is the singular reason shaman dps specs have traditionally sucked ass in PvE. They're already outrageously powerful because of their toolkit and burst potential. If you gave them good sustain and PvE damage they would be unstoppable in PvP. It's stupid that class design gets bogged down and hampered by one or the other aspect of the game. Trying to have both in a functional, "fair" state within the game is a fool's errand. Having completely different rulesets is something they should have done ages ago. Instead they just half-ass it and call it good.
 
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Also, would it be fair for me to say pve encounters can be fully researched and know exactly what to do at all times? Would it be fair to say PVP is complete randomness and might require a higher level of awareness than a scripted event?
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Not really dude. All the high end pvp players know what the other team is going to do, what they want to do, and what they have to do to counter it. The team who does this better wins the match. Go ahead and research all the PvE bosses you want, you still have to execute.

Unless you want to talk about low rated pvp, which is 100% random and good luck & god bless. Pretty similar experience to pugging a heroic raid.
 
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The flaw (nyuk nyuk) in your thinking is that we should spend time participating in something we aren't interested in before we proclaim we aren't interested. That just makes zero sense. You're basically saying hey suck a couple dicks then tell me you aren't gay. No one is buying it.
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I have never asked anyone to go pvp. Not once. I've simply called out someone for offering advice on how the part of the game THEY enjoy should be and said hey aren't you guys just being negative Nancy's here?
 
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All this rated pvp talk is boring, you know what's not boring? Me vs 3 level 113s and camping alliance quest areas
 
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Flaw said:
I have never asked anyone to go pvp. Not once. I've simply called out someone for offering advice on how the part of the game THEY enjoy should be and said hey aren't you guys just being negative Nancy's here?
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What's your pvp rating?
 
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Fyff said:
What's your pvp rating?
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I have no reason to share my details since I haven't been complaining about Pvp, or suggesting changes. Which, is the only reason I've called people out and this discussion has existed to this point

BUT SURE, I WILL BITE SIR

I have every healer class at 120 with 350 ilvl minimum from pvp only. My rating is spread between all of them anywhere from 1700 to 2300 currently. Ilvl spread from 350-370

I literally just finished getting 120 on the last healer class, and now it's time to focus on playing just one of them exclusively, maybe two depending on what my teammates want to play. Disc priest was the last to finish, and is the one at 1722 from the initial gearing process. I don't enjoy disc and will just sleep on that char for now.

With that one or maybe two healers I will end up with glad just like most previous seasons now that the leveling and initial gearing process is over and I can focus on what I enjoy the most. When I try to play 3 or more healers at once it seems to hold me back heavily once I get around 2200 and can't keep muscle memory up to the enemy level

Keep in mind this is all from playing casually, PVP only, when my RL friends are on too. I don't play with randoms.

As a reminder, my rating doesn't matter due to the fact I am not on record here complaining about the state of PVP, or offering up MY advice for fixes. I do not get near as much play time as most 2500+ streamers, I am ok with the fact I may never reach their level. I casually play with RL friends for fun, rating is a side product of that entertainment.
 
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Flaw said:
I have every healer class at 120 with 350 ilvl minimum from pvp only. My rating is spread between all of them anywhere from 1700 to 2300 currently. Ilvl spread from 350-370

I literally just finished getting 120 on the last healer class, and now it's time to focus on playing just one of them exclusively, maybe two depending on what my teammates want to play. Disc priest was the last to finish, and is the one at 1722 from the initial gearing process. I don't enjoy disc and will just sleep on that char for now.
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There's actually 6 Priests sitting at 1722 CR (2v2 and 3v3) on US armory API right now and only two of them have ever reached gladiator. Since one of them plays Shadow and has neck at 24 therefore not a really fresh character, this lets us with :

Sonja - Character - WoW

which doesn't really check with the "glad just like most previous seasons".
 
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Bondurant said:
There's actually 6 Priests sitting at 1722 CR (2v2 and 3v3) on US armory API right now and only two of them have ever reached gladiator. Since one of them plays Shadow and has neck at 24 therefore not a really fresh character, this lets us with :

Sonja - Character - WoW

which doesn't really check with the "glad just like most previous seasons".
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That person was a pretty good PvP player in 2011.
 
xzi

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He actually has some pretty solid mixes online, can't complain too much about that. I guess it's neat they're having 3 guests instead of just one? but eh lol
 
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I really liked their first album. It was mostly folk rock which I've always had a fondness for. When Drops of Jupiter became a mega hit on their second album all that went away.
 
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I did see a comment on the post about it and someone goes "Train...? Fucking can we bring Metzen back?" lmao
 
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Jesus Buttfucking Christ Bliz. , so people wanted way to target mounts and shit from the faggot Islands and you know common fucking sense suggested the fucking retard coins you get from running those mind numbing pieces of shit they call content. Well they decide not to let you target or buy them mounts. No they will 1/2 implement a solution and add all new shit to can grind out while hoping mounts drop. I really hope these fucking American Inventors are forced to eat literal shit 23 hours a day in hell.


Seafarer's Doubloon Vendors in 8.1
Vendors have been added near the Island Expeditions Que Hub in both Boralus and Dazar'alor that offer a variety of rewards in exchange for your Seafarer's Dubloon.

 
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