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velk

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The thing is the strategy for that boss is easily doable even with decrees that I keep putting emphasis on too. You literally just designate a zone for specific decrees and the problem is solved. But I don't wanna think, that shits gay

I mean expecting you to have cutting edge while using no addons or weakauras is probably a bit much, but you can point to at least one person, worldwide, who has done that right ? It's easy, so surely someone's done it, if just for bragging rights yeah ?
 

xzi

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I mean expecting you to have cutting edge while using no addons or weakauras is probably a bit much, but you can point to at least one person, worldwide, who has done that right ? It's easy, so surely someone's done it, if just for bragging rights yeah ?

You're missing the entire point of every single one of my posts just like Khane. This is the last post that I'm going to make about this, but my point was not that you should play the game without addons. My point is you 100% absolutely can play the game without addons if you pay attention to VARIOUS boss cues, which nobody does. Blizzard has done an insanely good job at telegraphing mechanics. It's amazing the information you get just from sound alone on a boss pull. Even 5man bosses do them too. Even rares in the world in BFA with 4m hp let you know when they're going to cast something.

Saying addons are required is fucking stupid, but there's no reason not to actually use them if it helps you out. You're fucking stupid if you think the game is unplayable without DBM because you would have to pay 5% more attention.

addons in pvp though, now there's a big brain conversation. No indicators whatsoever on DRs is pretty dumb.
 
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Khane

Got something right about marriage
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You are wrong, half of the shit a boss does on mythic is done with no precursor other than a timer. Sure some shit has ground effects, but most shit just happens at set intervals with no warning. And a lot of it overlaps. You need timers for it, and a lot of them offer very little time to react, which can't be done without obvious visuals like chat bubbles with raid markers so you can make it to your designated area in time. You should just stop, because it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

Addons absolutely are required for Mythic raiding in this game. But keep talking about getting AOTC 6 weeks into a raid as if it's an accomplishment when nobody is even talking about Heroic EZ mode raiding
 
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Noodleface

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You are wrong, half of the shit a boss does on mythic is done with no precursor other than a timer. Sure some shit has ground effects, but most shit just happens at set intervals with no warning. And a lot of it overlaps. You need timers for it, and a lot of them offer very little time to react, which can't be done without obvious visuals like chat bubbles with raid markers so you can make it to your designated area in time. You should just stop, because it's obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

Addons absolutely are required for Mythic raiding in this game. But keep talking about getting AOTC 6 weeks into a raid as if it's an accomplishment when nobody is even talking about Heroic EZ mode raiding
Just because he isn't raiding mythic now doesn't mean he hasn't. He got AOTC week 2 ghuun with my guild. We are all retarded here but now insults are getting personal.

Maybe I'm autistic but when you say add-ons are absolutely required to me that is saying there is no other option. There's a way around everything. You need counters? Assign people as designated counters. You need people with matching debuffs to touch? Have them macro something in a chat bubble.

I can't think of a single mechanic that couldn't be overcome with a little forethought. Is it practical? No, no one is arguing that. But is it absolutely impossible? No I don't believe so.

Show a boss where without add-ons it would be absolutely unkillable
 

xzi

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The real addon I need at all time for healing is clique specifically ONLY because my middle mouse button. It's so shit lmao, you make a mouseover for every other key but you can't with middle mouse button and that's been my dispell button for 15 years.

For whatever reason, clique is the only addon that allows this. It's really weird blizzard doesn't support middle mouse button mouseovers it in macros
 

Fyff

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How can you have a real discussion with a retard who thinks Legion and BFA are literally the same.
Once again you can't actually defend your position because you didn't actually experience it so you deflect. Good talk bro.
 

BoozeCube

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Once again you can't actually defend your position because you didn't actually experience it so you deflect. Good talk bro.

First of all by your logic a person couldn't tell that a steak was burnt if he wasn't the chef.

Second I have and continue to run the content in this game. I was raiding Mythic in Legion with the forum guild here the idea that you think the only thing I have ever done is LFR is beyond laughable you have zero reading comprehension as I said you aren't a special fucking snowflake. Do you think if you shill hard enough Furor is going to show up and give you a special Blizzard secret decoder ring? You are literally the dumbest fucking poster in this thread by a huge margin.
 

Fyff

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First of all by your logic a person couldn't tell that a steak was burnt if he wasn't the chef.

Second I have and continue to run the content in this game. I was raiding Mythic in Legion with the forum guild here the idea that you think the only thing I have ever done is LFR is beyond laughable you have zero reading comprehension as I said you aren't a special fucking snowflake. Do you think if you shill hard enough Furor is going to show up and give you a special Blizzard secret decoder ring? You are literally the dumbest fucking poster in this thread by a huge margin.
All you did last raid was run LFR once. Unless you lied. Your opinion on m plus gear is wrong. You are once again complaining about shit that isn't even a real issue. It wasn't an issue in Legion. It isn't an issue in BFA. One out of every thousand items you get might be an upgrade.

With all your knowledge you should know this...
 

BoozeCube

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All you did last raid was run LFR once. Unless you lied. Your opinion on m plus gear is wrong. You are once again complaining about shit that isn't even a real issue. It wasn't an issue in Legion. It isn't an issue in BFA. One out of every thousand items you get might be an upgrade.

With all your knowledge you should know this...

Yes when I logged in to 8.2 I posted about my first experience dicking around. Did you think I logged back off and never did anything else? Are you really this level of fucking clueless?

Also it's not just my fucking opinion you retarded fucking piece of retarded shit. If people are making fucking comics about the level of stupid that it is clearly more than one person have this opinion. Again Furor isnt going to suck you off or send you Bliz bucks for blindly defending shit design.
 

Fyff

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Good to see there are exactly zero coherent thoughts that pertain to the subject again. Good talk bro.
 

BoozeCube

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Good to see there are exactly zero coherent thoughts that pertain to the subject again. Good talk bro.

Says the guy who can't admit farming the same item season to season is pretty shit.

Not sure how that is a hard concept for you to grasp.
 

Ukerric

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Maybe I'm autistic but when you say add-ons are absolutely required to me that is saying there is no other option. There's a way around everything. You need counters? Assign people as designated counters. You need people with matching debuffs to touch? Have them macro something in a chat bubble.
And if you have infinite time to kill, and are raiding three months after your first encounter, then yes. It's possible.

But the entire design of Mythic raiding is to overwhelm you with things and leave you no margin to decide nor err. That's why each boss has more abilities in the mythic version than the heroic ones (or the same ones, but uses more at the same time).

That's why we're using addons. Because that's the kind of fight which is probably very easy for pre-programmed bots, and near-impossible for humans. So: addons to turn us into partial bots.
 

Rime

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What's going on with the Mrlll manapearl exploit, anyone know?

Seems this is a new, different one.

If you use the Mrrl weak aura and buy enough materials to purchase as many of the mana pearl bracelets as you want, it will buy all of them, instead of just one.
 
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Khane

Got something right about marriage
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Maybe I'm autistic but when you say add-ons are absolutely required to me that is saying there is no other option. There's a way around everything. You need counters? Assign people as designated counters. You need people with matching debuffs to touch? Have them macro something in a chat bubble.

So turn people into addons by having them use the in game stopwatch and hope they get it right, and then have other people use addon functionality in a button they have to manually press after timer bot A tells them to in discord. K. Yea, that's totally different. Using the same API addons use, which is what shouldn't even have to exist in the first place, to not use addons. Makes sense.

Anyway, the discussion has gotten away from the original point. The LUA API is way too open in WoW and allows addon developers to create addons with way more functionality than they should be able to. And instead of Blizzard developers reigning that in, they just create encounters so complex with such small margins of error that even with all these addons available, they are still incredibly hard to beat. Which makes you, as a player, spend more timing staring at UI elements than just being able to enjoy looking at the encounter, bosses and environments you are currently playing through.