I just want hard dungeons like OG tbc heroics or Mists challenge mode without a goofy timer. If you want to add a timer, make it diegetic like Baron runs or ZA or something. Doing M+ on release when everyone is undergeared trying to push keys is when it's fun, when you're not even sure if you could clear the fucking dungeon let alone time it. Once it becomes autistic adherence to a route in order to min/max the time to clear, it destroys the point of an mmoRPG to me.
This is the most puzzling thing to me.
Yeah I thought about that and it would be pretty amazing and a good way to do a new lore expansion.
That's funny, because Preach, who was the very definition of a min/max raider in WoW, went to an FFXIV night club and enjoyed it. He got made fun of by saying that he got "de-mazed in record time", as in deconditioned of being an ant running around in Bobby Kotick's maze.
Weren't MoP challange modes on a timer though? God, it's been so many years.
Yes, they were on a timer and with normalized gear. If you wanted rewards, you had to beat them in a certain amount of time. For some groups though, clearing them was challenging enough.
Raiding in FF14 is far better than in WoW.
I don't know what you are getting at. "Raiding" has been lauded as the crown jewel of WoW, at least since Ion was "lead encounter designer." And even more so since he was promoted to "game director." It was pretty obvious that they wanted to funnel everyone into raids by adding LFR (also called tourist mode), but at the same time made the fences you need to jump over higher and higher, as to being viable for high end raiding.
If you're at the point where you don't want to kill trash or go through a stronghold, you have become bored with "raiding" and just want boss encounters. It is at this point where the dev's feel they have to start adding more and more and more mechanics to maintain a players interest, regardless of whether those mechanics make any sense at all for the fight. FFXIV has went to extremes in this regard, the only thing about them which I'll agree is great, is the music. Top notch. Everything else is just generic mass mechanics, as with every other game. To me, this makes the players nothing more than lab rats, and the "raids" pure shit.
So your whole point is that you prefer pure twitch-based and action-focused experience. Which is actually matter of taste, and not superiority.
