Mist
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World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Chris
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I'm going to guess it's going to be as shit as possible.
No new class, no new race,
5 zone floating Dragon Isles with loading screens between them but one is cut for patch content. Guessing biomes will be Desert, Forest, Swamp, Ice, Volcano.
5 covenants but each one only has 1 ability (not one per class). Class sets are back for each tier but the set bonus is like soulbinds.
Addons removed and UI overhaul as big feature. Expanded timewalking as another feature (different expansion for one week per month).
Either covered up Alexstraza is box art character, or arab-diverse Wrathion.
Villian is that chromatic dragon from the Cataclysm book nobody but YouTube lore channels knows about. Murozond raid tier is cut.
No new class, no new race,
5 zone floating Dragon Isles with loading screens between them but one is cut for patch content. Guessing biomes will be Desert, Forest, Swamp, Ice, Volcano.
5 covenants but each one only has 1 ability (not one per class). Class sets are back for each tier but the set bonus is like soulbinds.
Addons removed and UI overhaul as big feature. Expanded timewalking as another feature (different expansion for one week per month).
Either covered up Alexstraza is box art character, or arab-diverse Wrathion.
Villian is that chromatic dragon from the Cataclysm book nobody but YouTube lore channels knows about. Murozond raid tier is cut.
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Chris
Potato del Grande
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Fucker
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If you are trying to make a mmo that is successful long term then you don’t worry much about making things hard for people who have played for a decade. The type of thinking that says you should is why wow killed its community and is in its death throes.
Mythic raiding does massive damage to the social side of the game. Things are so hard it promotes anti social behavior instead of just playing with who showed up like it was in classic or wotlk.
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Fucker
Log Wizard
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THere's nothing wrong with challenging content. It can't be the focus of the game, though. WoW currently has nothing to do for casuals outside of really long and pointless grinds.
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When it was Hakkar hard mode or like ulduar hard modes it was ok cause it was still overall much more casual raids but with a few rewards for being great. Now mythic is by definition the focus of the game.
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Cybsled
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This is the bigger issue - you need to add engaging content for people who don’t want to do mythic raids. Doing rep grinds for months isn’t engaging content
If FF14 can fix its pvp and get people to love it, WoW can fix its casual content variety and complexity. In theory
Qhue
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The core issue that WoW has is the notion that you are always competing to have the coolest thingy. There are tons of games, even multiplayer games, where there's no notion of someone getting validated with a doo-dad. Focus on making the actual gameplay fun and not on making the brass ring shinier.
Fucker
Log Wizard
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The entire point of WoW is to gear up your character. They have removed that as an option for everyone except hardcore players. Sure, you can get some loot here and there with really long and pointless rep grinds, but that gets old really fast. It isn't even fun to level alts. Bad story, dumb covenants, no loot...what's the point?
The only people running mythic now are socially inept spergy weirdos who make the game unbearable for other people.
On top of this, the devs have not shown they are capable of listening to anyone. BFA was trash, SL was worse...and they have not changed their approach to anything other than doubling down on things no one wants.
Cybsled
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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That is a long term weakness of the game. You need alternative means of "advancement" besides +gooderer gear.
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Fucker
Log Wizard
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True, but WoW devs view housing and things of that nature with disdain. No leet gamer would ever want to do any of that!
Mist
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There's 4 difficulty levels of raids, like 22+ effective difficulty levels of dungeons, an extensive PvP ladder, battlegrounds, plus all the bullshit you have to do to unlock all the seasonal bullshit you need to progress your character.
WoW isn't bad because there isn't enough to do; it's bad because there's a bunch of unfun shit you're forced to do before you can enjoy the content you want.
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The game isn't fun because it doesn't encourage you to play with your friends, which is what MMOs are all about. Instead, if you are a good player, it encourages you to abandon your friends and find people of similar skill levels to make meaningful progression, mmos always did this to some extent but WoW is now in the far extreme. If you aren't good then like you said it offers 5 million different avenues to advance but between constant gear resets and free stuff none of it feels meaningful and you can't build a mid tier community because the game is so muddled.
They need to go back to mechanics that just encourage people to play together and have fun and not hammer you down because you didn't finish the zone in time or exclude you from any meaningful loot because you haven't been practicing your rotation for 13 years.
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