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kitsune

kitsune

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So tell me guys, how is the new raid? Oregorger seems to be complicated for some, but I don't think I'll have too much a problem with it.

My guild is like average ilvl 670-675 and we're just 2/7 mythic at this point. Wonder if we should just do normal first or still go into heoric. I prefer doing harder content myself but the few bottomfeeders we drag around would likely continue to suck
 
Dandai

Dandai

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My guild is 4/7M HM, and we did 9/10 tonight on normal. It was pretty fun. I feel like they put a bit more effort into BRF than HM. Iron Maidens, even on normal, were pretty demanding. Oregorger we one shot after melee figured out to stand to the side of the boss instead of behind. Looks like he'll be a bit of a stumbling block for heroic.

We put in a few pulls on Blackhand. Interesting fight but we were already 45 min over raid time so we're gonna hit him later this week.
 
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Troll_sl

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So how does the expansion compare to MoP? I really started hating WoW during MoP. It just all seemed so... lifeless. Impersonal.

I've been having the urge to get back into an MMO, but really kinda am hesitant.
 
Eidal

Eidal

Molten Core Raider
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Talked to a guild leader who said hes building a mythic team, just needs a "few core raiders". I went along with their raid last night in normal BRF. Me and two other tanks showed up, they asked me to go glad. 3 hours later we've killed Gruul and wiped 10x to Oregorger. Going to tell the guy today "sorry not what I'm looking for". Had a 656 ilvl ret officer there doing 8k-14k dps =/
 
Xequecal

Xequecal

Trump's Staff
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I am currently just laughing at the state of tank balance right now and happy that I picked the correct class for once. Not using a Brewmaster in BRF is worse than not using a DK in Ulduar was. When you're approaching every fight and the first thing you start talking about is, "OK, set up the healer cooldown rotation for the other tank" it's just ridiculous. I'm sitting at around 40-50% of the overall damage taken of my Druid co-tank, I have 175% of the effective health, and I have about double the relevant cooldowns to use. Just being a Monk lets you cheese and ignore major mechanics of like three bosses and some shit is tuned to the point that it's better to have a random WW Monk just swap to BrM spec and tank in his DPS gear, because it's still better than anything the other tanks can do.

I can't wait for Mythic to drop and showcase this, Kromog with the currently advertised Mythic numbers is basically not tankable by anything but dual Monk. The other tanks just don't have the EH to live without farming more gear.
 
Miele

Miele

Lord Nagafen Raider
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Xequecal_sl said:
I am currently just laughing at the state of tank balance right now and happy that I picked the correct class for once. Not using a Brewmaster in BRF is worse than not using a DK in Ulduar was. When you're approaching every fight and the first thing you start talking about is, "OK, set up the healer cooldown rotation for the other tank" it's just ridiculous. I'm sitting at around 40-50% of the overall damage taken of my Druid co-tank, I have 175% of the effective health, and I have about double the relevant cooldowns to use. Just being a Monk lets you cheese and ignore major mechanics of like three bosses and some shit is tuned to the point that it's better to have a random WW Monk just swap to BrM spec and tank in his DPS gear, because it's still better than anything the other tanks can do.

I can't wait for Mythic to drop and showcase this, Kromog with the currently advertised Mythic numbers is basically not tankable by anything but dual Monk. The other tanks just don't have the EH to live without farming more gear.
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Yes, it's good to be green. It was even before, but until a certain gear level it was well hidden and everyone was screaming "DK". This means they'll revert the stagger change back to 10%, and take away 10% flat damage modifiers, I know, they like to fuck up with people.
 
Sabbat

Sabbat

Trakanon Raider
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New guild, new attitudes, and a great new team. Went into BRF tonight with a raid ilvl 660 and clobbered 5/10 normal. The Bros and Furnace were amazingly fun fights. Necrotic plague doing some fine work on Beastmaster.

Just how bad is the DK set bonus? Everyone is super excited about their respective bonus, but DK (unholy) seems pretty lacklustre.
 
Ukerric

Ukerric

Bearded Ape
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Troll_sl said:
So how does the expansion compare to MoP? I really started hating WoW during MoP. It just all seemed so... lifeless. Impersonal.
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It's really different, due to the preeminence of the Garrison in gameplay. You're not playing, most of the time you're managing your garrison: gathering stuff, sending out followers on missions (that give you better gear than you get yourself). Basically, instead of hanging out in the capital, you're hanging out alone in your own city, and inviting sometimes people for some local fun.

The Garrison is a really nice variation if you're a bit in those F2P Web management games, but if you're not into it, it's probably worse than MoP. Dungeon/Raid wise, I'd say it's the same, with varying difficulty levels.
 
Noodleface

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Miele_sl said:
Yes, it's good to be green. It was even before, but until a certain gear level it was well hidden and everyone was screaming "DK". This means they'll revert the stagger change back to 10%, and take away 10% flat damage modifiers, I know, they like to fuck up with people.
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Rather than bring tanks in line with Monks, they'll bring Monks in line with other tanks. It's the way blizzard has always operated, nerf from the top down.
 
Zaphid

Zaphid

Trakanon Raider
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Troll_sl said:
So how does the expansion compare to MoP? I really started hating WoW during MoP. It just all seemed so... lifeless. Impersonal.

I've been having the urge to get back into an MMO, but really kinda am hesitant.
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Depends on how much you like raiding and alts, if you aren't big on any of those, there is very little to keep you going IMO, you can find my rant a few pages back. What content there is for leveling, is very well done, but since every character will take exactly the same road, it wears thin surprisingly quickly. Shame the expansion doesn't come with a free month, because that would be a perfect window to do everything I want. Unless you are seriously itching for an MMO, you will probably enjoy it more if you wait until 6.1 lands.
 
Qhue

Qhue

Tranny Chaser
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The thing is that Normal really isn't progression per se since they neutered Raid Finder into oblivion and then applied a ridiculous release schedule for it.

I was okay with Raid Finder being delayed a week so that people doing hard modes could get the visceral feel that first week, but two freaking months?!
 
Vitality

Vitality

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Eidal_sl said:
Talked to a guild leader who said hes building a mythic team, just needs a "few core raiders". I went along with their raid last night in normal BRF. Me and two other tanks showed up, they asked me to go glad. 3 hours later we've killed Gruul and wiped 10x to Oregorger. Going to tell the guy today "sorry not what I'm looking for". Had a 656 ilvl ret officer there doing 8k-14k dps =/
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Dang bub 8-14k is just auto attacking at that ilvl.
 
Qhue

Qhue

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First wing for LFR is delayed two weeks, wing two comes out a week later. The delay for the third wing is two weeks after wing 2 and the final boss is two weeks after wing 3. Which brings us to the end of March , 7 weeks in all.

Keep in mind that all of this delay is just for ilevel 650 gear without any sort of set bonus. I'm not quite sure what they envision LFR users are doing for the next two months that would still result in 650 gear even being desired. Do they expect such players to run one heroic dungeon a week, never earn Apexis crystals, avoid tradeskill items and not use the Garrison?
 
Noodleface

Noodleface

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LFR is not meant to be competitive for gearing. At most, it will fill in spots that you aren't getting lucky in, and at best it is a tourism mode for super casual players. There's no reason that people doing LFR should get to see bosses before people who are doing N/H/M.

There is no easy answer here.
 
Kreugen

Kreugen

Vyemm Raider
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Went straight to heroic, Gruul fell over dead and then killing Oregorger ate up most of our time. I'm rather hoping we go somewhere other than furnace next because that shit has major timesink written all over it.
 
Eidal

Eidal

Molten Core Raider
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Vitality_sl said:
Dang bub 8-14k is just auto attacking at that ilvl.
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Look at these superstars. I'm annoyed that they told me they were ready for Mythic and also that they said to come and trial for a tank slot... then make me go glad (when I literally have never played glad) and get to watch these two fail-tanks. Friendly enough, but friendly doesn't get me Mythic kills -_-
 
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