World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Xexx
Vyemm Raider
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Qhue
Tranny Chaser
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Many good points. Especially after stating that Dearborn would be somewhat like Timeless Isle only a whole continent worth of content. Instead we get a fuckton of art and assets blown on a ho-hum levelling content and then a couple of mini daily areas within each zone to come back to for Apexis crystals.
None of which is even remotely as interesting as Timeless Isle was. 14 months to make what we are looking at right now with a monthly revenue that is obscene is just a mystery
None of which is even remotely as interesting as Timeless Isle was. 14 months to make what we are looking at right now with a monthly revenue that is obscene is just a mystery
spronk
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i havent played in 2 years but if anyone wants the WoD CE its $25 off on amazon ($65)
Amazon.com: World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor Collectors Edition - PC/Mac: Video Games
Amazon.com: World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor Collectors Edition - PC/Mac: Video Games
Ok, opinion for upgrade
I currently have:
Chest:Blackwater Wrap - Item - World of Warcraft
Helm:Blackwater Helm - Item - World of Warcraft
Legs:Primal Combatants Ironskin Legguards - Item - World of Warcraft
I'm about to hit my next CP buy.
Which would you buy first:
Chest:Primal Gladiators Tunic - Item - World of Warcraft(Best combination of stats, this probably has the longest legs of all the items before set pieces)
Legs:Primal Gladiators Leggings - Item - World of Warcraft(Biggest increase in stats, I'm thinking this is the best one)
Head:Primal Gladiators Ironskin Helm - Item - World of Warcraft
I currently have:
Chest:Blackwater Wrap - Item - World of Warcraft
Helm:Blackwater Helm - Item - World of Warcraft
Legs:Primal Combatants Ironskin Legguards - Item - World of Warcraft
I'm about to hit my next CP buy.
Which would you buy first:
Chest:Primal Gladiators Tunic - Item - World of Warcraft(Best combination of stats, this probably has the longest legs of all the items before set pieces)
Legs:Primal Gladiators Leggings - Item - World of Warcraft(Biggest increase in stats, I'm thinking this is the best one)
Head:Primal Gladiators Ironskin Helm - Item - World of Warcraft
All of this was painfully obvious to me in less than two weeks of playing WoD, but a lot of people were/are in denial and insist that it's the best expansion ever, has the most content ever (some literally claimed this), and that garrisons = awesome gameplay. I realized that WoD spelled the final transformation of WoW into a game for the ultra-casuals who are more interested in collecting mounts and filling their toybox than progressing through the game, and that the latter was completely sacrificed as a cost-cutting measure. The people who supported and funded WoW for a decade are no longer the target audience.
I think I posted this earlier in the thread, but a couple of weeks into WoD, I talked to my friends about how there was absolutely nothing to do outside of raid nights. One of my friends said that he couldn't understand what I meant, WoD was "keeping him entertained all day with awesome gameplay." I was later at his house and saw that 'entertained all day' actually meant logging in every couple of hours to collect his work orders and organize his missions, and then playing Hearthstone and Destiny the rest of the time. He spent less than an hour a day actually logged into WoW.
It really has become too easy for Blizzard if this can satisfy millions of customers; and in a way I get why they gave up trying to actually make good expansions, because why bother if they can get away with this garbage? Some might drop off due to the abysmal quality, but if the lost revenue is less than the expenses spared in development, it makes business sense. Total sacrifice of professional integrity, but hey, who cares about that anymore?
kitsune
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Well this patch is bullshit for sure but I'm ok with it, since I play progression raiding I get to have 3 nights where we do hard content and then I play my alts through raids on offnights. Obviously the content is stale (sans raids) but when I get bored I just play league of legends instead. Wonder why they gated the garrison campaign so heavily, it was by far one of the best pieces of early max level content. Just feels extra dumb that it ends and we won't see next part until 6.2.
I really think they're working ultra hard on the next expansion to just make us shuffle out more $$$, because this feels like the least amount of things to do at max level since.... ever. Cataclysm was highly criticized for its lack of end game, but there was at least daily hubs and reason to farm the dungeons a bit there, both for faction rep and justice/valor points. Really too bad because the idea of walking around on your ground mount out in the world doing shit is exactly what makes the world feel alive. Why they can't have such things is beyond me, seeing as they already have so many populated level 100 areas with elites, rare spawns and shit. Just give us something to do there
I really think they're working ultra hard on the next expansion to just make us shuffle out more $$$, because this feels like the least amount of things to do at max level since.... ever. Cataclysm was highly criticized for its lack of end game, but there was at least daily hubs and reason to farm the dungeons a bit there, both for faction rep and justice/valor points. Really too bad because the idea of walking around on your ground mount out in the world doing shit is exactly what makes the world feel alive. Why they can't have such things is beyond me, seeing as they already have so many populated level 100 areas with elites, rare spawns and shit. Just give us something to do there
Ukerric
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This is why you also get additional follower missions that bring back apexis (unlike the "Shattrah Rescue" mission that pops like every two months), plus the ability to purchase additional apexis dailies quests.
It's the same for savage bloods and crafting components: you get additional crafting components cooldowns, plus additional sources of blood or spirits, while you get a more expensive tiers. That means you don't craft/purchase the upgrade to the new tier much faster than the previous tiers, but if you have an alt, said alt can get that gear faster than you did.
Planned mudflation.
Ukerric
Bearded Ape
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Garrisons = awesome potential, meh implementation.
What they originally promised was very exciting. Pick a spot to make your garrison, manage strategic-level outpost network, build an army of troops and followers to counter the Iron Horde. From the Powerpoint presentations, it looked like a good full-fledged strategy game. Play right, and you'd get the good stuff. Mess up and, well, there's always raiding.
What we got is a neutered implementation with outposts being totally irrelevant, having the exact same followers as every alt (the only difference between my priest and my hunter is that the hunter deliberately choose the opposite outposts, and as a result has 5 different followers out of 25. Oh, 6, because I picked Vargoth for 25th with one, and went early to pick Dagg with the other), and absolutely no relevance to your troops in your moves against the Iron Horde since you're doing all the work.
Chris
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Iron Horde really aren't even in this expansion. You don't need to organise an army against them.
You mow them down in one area of Terrokar Forest, then theres one quest area in the starting zones and one in Nagrand. The rest is exterminating every living thing on Draenor.
You mow them down in one area of Terrokar Forest, then theres one quest area in the starting zones and one in Nagrand. The rest is exterminating every living thing on Draenor.
There's two takeaways from this for you :
1) Other people like different things than you do. They aren't secretly hating it and pretending to like it, they are not in denial, they haven't been jedi mind tricked and they are not paid shills.
2) Hardcore raiders are not now, and never have been, even a tiny fraction of the WoW's funding or target audience. Even in beta it's main advantages over EQ were accessibility. This has only gotten a stronger focus as time has gone by - blame 'kids these days' and their short attention spans ;p
Rombo
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I dont know, theres something about the WoD zone layout and feel thats way more attractive to me than pandas ever were. In my eyes, wotlk was the pinnacle of wow expensions. That said, am very happy with WoD.Could garrisons have been better? Maybe. But they sure as hell didnt remove any social interaction for me. What was a city hub before, beside a very artsy auction house. You chilled idle in capital cities only to play the AH. Blizz just removed a gold sink and allowed us to gather whatever we need in our own private spot.
Could 6.1 have been more? Hell yes, has it stand its super duper shallow. Their only saving grace is BRF was just released. BRF could have basically just been tacked on 6.1 and everyone would have went '' aaaaaawrooon, sweet content patch''. So when i think of 6.1 i think of it fused with BRF.
Cause seriously, a selfie system and twitter integration? Bro, u serious? The only sad part of it is blizz pushing it / selling it as content, even with their ''promotional 6.1 video''. That video actually makes 6.1 feels worst lol.
Could 6.1 have been more? Hell yes, has it stand its super duper shallow. Their only saving grace is BRF was just released. BRF could have basically just been tacked on 6.1 and everyone would have went '' aaaaaawrooon, sweet content patch''. So when i think of 6.1 i think of it fused with BRF.
Cause seriously, a selfie system and twitter integration? Bro, u serious? The only sad part of it is blizz pushing it / selling it as content, even with their ''promotional 6.1 video''. That video actually makes 6.1 feels worst lol.
Mahes
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The title of that video is what made me laugh the most. How does one not survive 6.1? There is no new content coming out, just new small features. I guess the survive question has to do with whether or not people stay subbed after this.
Noodleface
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I must be an outlier I guess. I enjoy BRF, and we're progressing fairly painstakingly slowly (5/10N - 7/10N personally after 2 weeks) and I'm ok with that. I log in, prep for raids, help people out, level alts, run pugs, play farmville, etc during the rest of the time. I'd even do Mythic raiding if I had the time for it. Still enjoy logging in every day and there is always something for me to do, but I am far, far from hardcore. I play hardcore 3 hours a week 
About the same for me. I am still having loads of fun. We have a long way to go with BRF, like Noodle said, but for me, that's fine. I'm in no rush at all.
I'm actually having a decent time. The fact that I don't have to farm heroic dungeons over and over is a boon but they are sitting there for me to do for specific things. Noodle last night hooked me up with a carry through UBRS and I was able to get Leeroy, Millhouse and that flask thing.
I'll eventually have all the quests to do the Barracks upgrade.
Farmville is boring, but I'm interested in getting to the point where I can do the raid stuff. I'm two followers away from getting war mill lvl 3. So thats a goal of sorts.
I'm farming ashran right now during work. Almost got all my gear out of it though. Sitting at 640+ ilvl now. Just need to get chest/head now.
Once a week I can do LFR for those stupid stones for my ring. LFR is fucking awful though.
I still don't know if I want to try to learn how to use TSM and level up my tradeskills. I've been passively using my cooldowns every day, haven't done much of anything else. I did enchant my weapon though!
There is a bunch to do, not all of it is fufilling to a hardcore raider though. But again, I haven't played this game for more than a weekend in 4-5 years.
I think the next thing I'm going to do is try to find a cool looking mount?
I'll eventually have all the quests to do the Barracks upgrade.
Farmville is boring, but I'm interested in getting to the point where I can do the raid stuff. I'm two followers away from getting war mill lvl 3. So thats a goal of sorts.
I'm farming ashran right now during work. Almost got all my gear out of it though. Sitting at 640+ ilvl now. Just need to get chest/head now.
Once a week I can do LFR for those stupid stones for my ring. LFR is fucking awful though.
I still don't know if I want to try to learn how to use TSM and level up my tradeskills. I've been passively using my cooldowns every day, haven't done much of anything else. I did enchant my weapon though!
There is a bunch to do, not all of it is fufilling to a hardcore raider though. But again, I haven't played this game for more than a weekend in 4-5 years.
I think the next thing I'm going to do is try to find a cool looking mount?