World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Dandai
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I think their intentions were good; they tried to bring back the excitement of getting new loot and equipping it on the spot. They didn't quite hit their mark though, unfortunately.
I say bring back reforging, but let players do it with no prerequisites (reforge mount, must visit capital city, etc). They could make it a consumable item that stacks to 100 that you have to keep in your bags, you know, like gems, re-spec books, and enchant scrolls. The only reason not to implement a reforge system like that would be, as you say, because they didn't want players to become optimal too quickly.
Dalien
Registered Hodor
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Reforging was great, what sucked was having to reforge multiple slots around the hit cap every time you got a new piece of gear. Since hit% is gone reforging would be amazing to have right now. Bleeding edge raiders would still reforge their whole set all the time to meet stat breakpoints and such, but most of us would just like to turn our shitty haste into multistrike, etc.
Mahes
Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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I think it strange they they do not want players to feel as though they need to log in. The truth is, they do not want players who have the time to level up 10 characters to get so far ahead of those that do not, that the ones who are part timers just move on. They make the most money off the players who play a couple of hours a week.
The garrison should have been account based and not character based. That would have solved a few of the problems this expansion has created. Honestly though, if they wanted to retain players perhaps they could add content. It feels like every expansion is generating less and less content that is worth even doing.
Worlds of Warcraft 2 with a design overhaul would work, but it would also cost a lot of money.
kaid
Blackwing Lair Raider
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I cannot say I am to surprised I don't think they imagined people would just grind garrison stuff to make 2-3k gold a day in 5 minutes running alts.
bixxby
Molten Core Raider
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Buying WoW tokens with garrison gold is more satisfying than the boring as shit raid instance we have right now. Blackrock is one of my least favorite zones they've done.
Tarisk
Pathetic Reaction Bot
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Raid encounters, for me, should be no longer than 2-3 minutes tops. Anything else is just too long and dull. I learned my lesson when I raided in in Rift all those years ago. I'm not sure why they don't build raid dungeons like Diablo. Run around, killing mini bosses and have an end game boss fight for a few minutes. Rinse and repeat. Maybe one encounter every once in a while that is longer.
bixxby
Molten Core Raider
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Kreugen
Vyemm Raider
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50ish percentile mythic highmaul (sub 692 ilevel):
Tectus: 3:30
Butcher: 3:50
Ko'ragh: 4:20
Kargath: 5
Ogron: 5:40
Brackenspore: 6:45
Imperator: 11:20 of Fuck You
50ish percentile mythic brf (any ilevel):
Hans and Frans: 4:50
Flamebender: 5:15
Gruul: 5:33
Oregorger: 6
Operator: 7
Blackhand: 7:30
Kormog: 7:30
Beastlord: 8:30
Maidens: 10
Blast Furnace: 10
So yeah, definite trending upwards. I doubt any MOP tier had as many 7+ minute slogfests. Of course, MOP had the 20 fucking minute Sha.
I dunno how to find relevant pre-WOD stats though. Comparing to something like Icecrown would be interesting.
EDIT: It doesn't help that the last minute or so of Maidens is ten times as hectic as the last 30 seconds of Tectus, while being 6 1/2 minutes longer.
Tectus: 3:30
Butcher: 3:50
Ko'ragh: 4:20
Kargath: 5
Ogron: 5:40
Brackenspore: 6:45
Imperator: 11:20 of Fuck You
50ish percentile mythic brf (any ilevel):
Hans and Frans: 4:50
Flamebender: 5:15
Gruul: 5:33
Oregorger: 6
Operator: 7
Blackhand: 7:30
Kormog: 7:30
Beastlord: 8:30
Maidens: 10
Blast Furnace: 10
So yeah, definite trending upwards. I doubt any MOP tier had as many 7+ minute slogfests. Of course, MOP had the 20 fucking minute Sha.
I dunno how to find relevant pre-WOD stats though. Comparing to something like Icecrown would be interesting.
EDIT: It doesn't help that the last minute or so of Maidens is ten times as hectic as the last 30 seconds of Tectus, while being 6 1/2 minutes longer.
Abefroman
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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They have said no. That doesn't mean they wont change things a few months in, but at the start, no.
Ukerric
Bearded Ape
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Yea, the problem with being able to trade Primal for Felblight would be that some, like me, would instantly have enough to upgrade our 3 crafted items to max. Since they announced to reduced costs, I've been stockpiling primals, and I have between 900 and 2400 per alt (9 alt total).
kaid
Blackwing Lair Raider
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Yup no point of them switching to a totally new currency for the upgrades and then letting people blow huge stock piles of things like primal spirits to buy them would totally defeat the purpose.
Abefroman
Naxxramas 1.0 Raider
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Yah, same reason they made them not available from barns. Soo many wasted rush work orders.