I wonder if they wanted to pull the plug on WoW by about now with Titan and since that didn't pan out they're just scrambling to add stuff to WoW. Maybe they really thought WoD would just be the final expansion and they didn't have a long-term plan for it. But now since Titan is long sense dead they decided instead of trying to pile add-ons onto WoD they'll just start fresh with Legion. IDK. They've been doing this for a while now so its probably just optimistic thinking.
World of Warcraft: Current Year
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Noodleface
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I bet they were thinking "we lost 5 million people, what can we do to get them back? Wait I know, people wanted player housing, and more readily available epics, and pets. THE PEOPLE WANT MORE PETS!!! AND PET BATTLES!!! AND OMG SHIPS GUYS!!! YESSS HAHA"
It spun out of control
It spun out of control
Caeden
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I do wonder "what next" for the Warcraft franchise as a whole.
WoW was my EQ. I barely touched eq for a month or two before grad school sucked me in. I came out of school at the tail end of Vanilla WoW. It holds a special spot for me. I didn't play a lot of PC stuff prior. The closest to impact for me is probably Legend of Zelda (specifically ALttP and OoT), FFIV (or FF2 US), and maybe SF2 for those games that just defined why I loved gaming. WoW was a game I could put anyone down in a chair and within 20 minutes they'd be a convert. It was just fun and exemplified why this hobby was great. I had similar experiences with Zelda and SF2. Just seeing the addiction grow in someone.
It's fun to toss around "shit show" about recent xpacs, but they've still delivered a decent amount of fun and been polished as hell. The cracks are showing though. It was sorta like Skyward Sword. It felt like Zelda. It was polished, but something wasn't hitting the nostalgia buttons or the joy buttons just right. It started to feel tired. That's where WoW clearly is right now.
A buddy asked me about Skyward Sword. I said it was good. I didn't regret my 40 or so hours. But I didn't feel that burning desire to do 100% of the game like even Twilight Princess. I summed it up with "what now?" I hate to see this franchise die, but I agree that a showing like WoD could spell doom. I feel Blizzard needs to step back and re-new fun somehow. That will involve risk, but I think we would welcome it.
Goddamn I'm talking about this like its the fate of the free world. I'm emotional.
I gave Nintendo my childhood through college years. I was a fanboy but they got my time. I did the same with Blizzard and my 20's and 30's. I played other stuff but I also skipped a lot of last console generation to give Blizzard my money and time. Damnit. Do right by us. Don't be like Nintendo and chase gimmicks. Make us be kids again. Salty fuck as I am.
WoW was my EQ. I barely touched eq for a month or two before grad school sucked me in. I came out of school at the tail end of Vanilla WoW. It holds a special spot for me. I didn't play a lot of PC stuff prior. The closest to impact for me is probably Legend of Zelda (specifically ALttP and OoT), FFIV (or FF2 US), and maybe SF2 for those games that just defined why I loved gaming. WoW was a game I could put anyone down in a chair and within 20 minutes they'd be a convert. It was just fun and exemplified why this hobby was great. I had similar experiences with Zelda and SF2. Just seeing the addiction grow in someone.
It's fun to toss around "shit show" about recent xpacs, but they've still delivered a decent amount of fun and been polished as hell. The cracks are showing though. It was sorta like Skyward Sword. It felt like Zelda. It was polished, but something wasn't hitting the nostalgia buttons or the joy buttons just right. It started to feel tired. That's where WoW clearly is right now.
A buddy asked me about Skyward Sword. I said it was good. I didn't regret my 40 or so hours. But I didn't feel that burning desire to do 100% of the game like even Twilight Princess. I summed it up with "what now?" I hate to see this franchise die, but I agree that a showing like WoD could spell doom. I feel Blizzard needs to step back and re-new fun somehow. That will involve risk, but I think we would welcome it.
Goddamn I'm talking about this like its the fate of the free world. I'm emotional.
I gave Nintendo my childhood through college years. I was a fanboy but they got my time. I did the same with Blizzard and my 20's and 30's. I played other stuff but I also skipped a lot of last console generation to give Blizzard my money and time. Damnit. Do right by us. Don't be like Nintendo and chase gimmicks. Make us be kids again. Salty fuck as I am.
Foggy
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WoD down to $10. Somebody was asking about it at $20 a little bit ago.
WoD down to $10. Somebody was asking about it at $20 a little bit ago.
There better be a fuggin old god this expansion or I'm going to....stay subbed and bitch about it
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Being in alpha since the second invite wave, well it's a solid expansion with exact the same formula as always, nothing really new or ground breaking this time again. WOD leveling style (which is nice, at least a lot of people liked it), huge strained epic quest, this time it's your weapon. isle shaped terrain again with 5 large zones. Selling point this time could be the PvP remake (which is quite a grind, but an entertaining one. Feels rewarding to to unlock skills). Solid first raid what we have seen so far, but all in all please do not expect the "we will bring back the war in warcraft" Metzen approach with legion. Same lame level of threat the iron horde posed in WOD for the burning legion so far. At this point even with pruning, balancing, retuning whatever it's always the same gameplay and feel. There will be no shocking or fresh design idea, however compared to WOD legion feels more structured and rounded, more like MOP in good way. The company structure, age of the game and maybe the playerbase will never be prepared (haha) for something like really new. I am just curious what they will do after legion, seriously. They even flinched from adding more levels to pet battles because people bitched "too much effort leveling all the pets" and stuff.
Noodleface
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Khane
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So I'm trying to set up a character to hold old raid lockouts for mount farming.
I cleared all bosses up to mount dropping boss on the character I want holding the lockout.
Then I created a custom group using that character, logged onto character B to kill the boss, then dropped and formed a new group on character A again and repeated the process for characters C through N.
This worked like a charm in Ulduar and ICC. However in Firelands its not working at all. Followed all the same steps but every character I zone has a dead Ragnaros. Does this not work for Cata+ raids?
I cleared all bosses up to mount dropping boss on the character I want holding the lockout.
Then I created a custom group using that character, logged onto character B to kill the boss, then dropped and formed a new group on character A again and repeated the process for characters C through N.
This worked like a charm in Ulduar and ICC. However in Firelands its not working at all. Followed all the same steps but every character I zone has a dead Ragnaros. Does this not work for Cata+ raids?
Abefroman
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Are you doing them normal of heroic? If heroic I believe the raids there are locked to a certain I.D and once something dies it stays dead for anyone that was in that group. It's hard to remember because they have changed the way the lockout works like every damn XPAC.
Dandai
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I believe Heroic lockouts are saved per instance for all raids Cat and up. It's only Wrath that doesn't save Heroic lockouts per instance (instead of per character).
But to answer your question Khane, all bosses must be killed on Heroic to kill Rag and Deathwing on heroic for those raid instances.
Edit: Rag does not have a heroic-only mount, but Deathwing does (it's a re-color of the normal mount).
Urlithani
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You're going to have to wait your turn buddy. We are overdue for a troll raid!
Palum
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I mean any faction that becomes irrelevant during the OPENING QUEST SEQUENCE is pretty shitty.
Also called it RE: near labor day. Blizzard is soooo slow.
Kuro
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The Legion Returns August 30
Legion will release on August 30, 2016!
Pre-ordering grants your Level 100 character boost immediately and eventual early access to the Demon Hunter class.
The digital deluxe edition gives you the Illidari Felstalker Mount, Nibbles Pet, Felstalker Mount in Heroes, SC2 Portraits, and Diablo III Wings & Helm transmog.
The collector's edition is available on Amazon for $89.99. Keep in mind you have to go through some extra steps to get the boost and Demon Hunter early access.
Legion will release on August 30, 2016!
Pre-ordering grants your Level 100 character boost immediately and eventual early access to the Demon Hunter class.
The digital deluxe edition gives you the Illidari Felstalker Mount, Nibbles Pet, Felstalker Mount in Heroes, SC2 Portraits, and Diablo III Wings & Helm transmog.
The collector's edition is available on Amazon for $89.99. Keep in mind you have to go through some extra steps to get the boost and Demon Hunter early access.
Araxen
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This means I should quit once they take out the gold missions and not play till January for Legion to become playable.
I managed to go through with my monk and I was pretty much alone for the whole first evening of SMV questing.
